**Revelation 22:17 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

```Dust


<17> The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. ```

You, @Riley Are being offered something free of cost, and yet you still refuse it.

no, what you are doing is regarding a hypothesis about the origin of the universe

and I do not accept it

as you have not met your burden of proof

I bring no proof, if i had proof it would defeat the purpose of tribulation. For you to seek god out of faith, not by sight

faith is not a means of rational justification

faith is irrational

so is opinion

using that logic, one could justify the existence of anything by appealing to faith

we're talking in circles.

there is nothing more loving than faith in something that you cannot see. Give and you will be given to

i don't think you understand

Faith could be used

to justify the existance of anything

faith is not a reliable path to truth

so can someones opinion

i know

and thats why we call them *opinions*

not facts

I've held faiths in many things, addie. Never from another place of spirituality have i recieved the grace that i have through God

ok demonstrate that there is a God to give grace

especially considering the errors of the bible

there was no flood

there was no creatoin

If you do not seek him he will not come to you. If you wait for proof of him you will never see it

there was no exodus

Our purpose here isnt to be shown God and then go to him, we are to flock to him

lmfao

you still have yet to demonstrate Gods existance

your just appealing to emotions

fallaciously

you stil have yet to disprove his existence

Addie, emotion is all we have that puts us apart from the world.

thats not my job. The burden of proof is on the one who makes a positive claim

Don't you see? without it we are robots or animals

"god exists" is a positive claim

I am simply asking for evidence of this

I have no evidence, and i never will. If you wan't a spring apple you have to grab it. If you wait for autumn and the apples fall they will not be spring apples anymore. If you want to see him you have to seek him before its too late

the arguments you are making could be made for any religion