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it makes no sense to think that the world around us just exists. no matter how hard people try to explain it, it is debunked by their own laws of science. We cannot simply exist in our current state, it makes no sense to say that matter and energy simply is, there has to be something there that has created it. its easy logic to say that if there is something that is perfectly designed that exists in a plain of reality where nothing can be created or destroyed then there has to be another plain, a spiritual one that God exists on

you are appealing to ignorance

that is fallacious

You created a hypothesis, that God created the unvierse

now you need to provide evidence for it

wheres your evidence that god didnt create the universe?

Evidence is the world around us that i say he has created. Our existence is by his mercy and grace

Now you are insisting that the world around us is evidence

when I say it isnt

let people believe in their own faith

faith is irrational

so is opinion

you can't say "well nobody was murdered. this body just exists here. theres no murderer in site so therefore this person with a bullet in their brain was never murdered. they just existed as a corpse"

and you can't say "I know who murdered this person, even though I have no evidence supporting my claim"

here is what you can say however

You can say that you are going to gather evidence

and come to a conclusion based on said evidence

Well God's entire purpose for creation was for you to be lead not by material or sight but by faith. Do you want your future spouse to come to you by your sexual attractiveness, or your spirit and grace?

whcih is what we are doing with the origin of the universe

If God showed himself everyone with a brain would fall to their knees for him

thats not relevant

It is

you still have yet to demonstrate God

God is personal, he has emotions and feelings

and he Loves you just how you will love your spouse

...

james 4:8

**James 4:8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<8> Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. ```

I don't get the amount of brainwashing you must feel inorder to not atleast hope for a god that truly loves and cares for you

you wont find any atheists on a boat sinking

revelation 22:17

**Revelation 22:17 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

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<17> The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. ```

You, @Riley Are being offered something free of cost, and yet you still refuse it.

no, what you are doing is regarding a hypothesis about the origin of the universe

and I do not accept it

as you have not met your burden of proof

I bring no proof, if i had proof it would defeat the purpose of tribulation. For you to seek god out of faith, not by sight

faith is not a means of rational justification

faith is irrational

so is opinion