Message from @Hunter491

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2018-07-30 12:47:53 UTC  

I'm inclined to believe democracy is impossible no matter how you organize it. Socrates was for what I understood a proponent of democracy just because he saw it as an inherent Athenian value. The democracy of the Athenians was way different than the parlamentarianism we know as "democracy" today.

2018-07-30 12:48:15 UTC  

@Thule it was a dictatorship my man

2018-07-30 12:49:06 UTC  

Sure, but he listened to his folk.

2018-07-30 12:49:08 UTC  

The greek meaning of the word democracy is good to keep in mind. Means "the people decide". What NS means in this context is imo "the Will of the volk". A big difference.

2018-07-30 12:49:18 UTC  

that doesn't mean it's a democracy at all then @Thule

2018-07-30 12:49:56 UTC  

@Hunter491 It's not just that you don't know them, it's also that there are clearly established dominant and merited key people around, its better if they naturally take the power they are suited for. In a very small community maybe it makes sense, since people might be nearly equally uneducated on how to run their community, so they need to base it on "Most people feel this way, so it's probably the least stupid choice"

2018-07-30 12:50:35 UTC  

NS Germany is gone, We should try to look for better models of governance lol

2018-07-30 12:50:38 UTC  

which would suit modern times

2018-07-30 12:50:52 UTC  

The Will of the Germans (and Aryans) met it's zenith in Hitler. He spoke the voice of all and acted with the Will of all.

2018-07-30 12:51:25 UTC  

Hitler manifested Germany so he was best suited to lead it

2018-07-30 12:51:41 UTC  

There are no better "models of governance" than the Hitlerian. Policies are arbitrary when it comes to empire building.

2018-07-30 12:51:47 UTC  

If a leader doesn't manifest the character and virtues of what he leads, he is not a true leader

2018-07-30 12:52:26 UTC  

In the end such a leader needs to rise naturally, not be elected after shelling out money on an electoral campaign and asking people to vote for him, it's just absurd

2018-07-30 12:53:13 UTC  

In this case even the elections in Germany that enabled Hitler were not mere elections, I mean you had open warfare in the streets between Hitlerists and opponents of all kinds

2018-07-30 12:53:53 UTC  

it was a battleground of force and action not a popularity contest of money and fikabröd

2018-07-30 12:55:17 UTC  

at any rate there will be no such person

2018-07-30 12:55:26 UTC  

Im still waiting for Turner Diares to happen lol

2018-07-30 12:55:36 UTC  

Why do you say that? How do you know.

2018-07-30 12:56:36 UTC  

assuming we are talking about Europe

2018-07-30 12:56:56 UTC  

such person would be quickly assinated, bought off, blackmailed, his group would be infiltrated and exposes

2018-07-30 12:57:04 UTC  

leaderless resistance is what we need

2018-07-30 12:57:05 UTC  

The Aryan blood demands a Hero to be born. It is the prerequisite of it.

2018-07-30 12:57:37 UTC  

It is wyrd. Inevitable fate

2018-07-30 12:57:44 UTC  

I dont believe in this esotericism sorry

2018-07-30 12:58:03 UTC  

Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. Just look at Hitler.

2018-07-30 12:58:18 UTC  

I dont see him as this near godlike mythical person either

2018-07-30 12:58:19 UTC  

sorry

2018-07-30 13:02:04 UTC  

it's not esotericism even if he used an esoteric term

2018-07-30 13:02:10 UTC  

well even the term is just mythological, not esoteric

2018-07-30 13:02:55 UTC  

it's been acknowledged by countless men from antiquity to Hitler's own statements that history is changed by the hands of a few great personalities, not by the masses

2018-07-30 13:03:04 UTC  

oh I dont dispute that

2018-07-30 13:03:06 UTC  

Yup. There is a difference between just saying "nope" and actually thinking about it

2018-07-30 13:03:30 UTC  

all Im saying is that one person wont save Europe

2018-07-30 13:03:33 UTC  

he may save his own country

2018-07-30 13:03:45 UTC  

if it comes to that

2018-07-30 13:03:56 UTC  

But then you're denying what you don't dispute

2018-07-30 13:04:28 UTC  

im not denying anything, i just dont believe in fate therefore I dont think that some great person is predistined to show up

2018-07-30 13:04:31 UTC  

Clearly one man won't save Europe, but one man will ignite the fire and be responsible.

2018-07-30 13:05:01 UTC  

One person never saved "Europe". It was the Will of the volk that put those banners up and fired those rifles

2018-07-30 13:05:53 UTC  

It is way more complicated than just a historical accurance between the years of 1890 and 1947

2018-07-30 15:53:23 UTC  

The problem of a unified people at this moment is that there tends to be different organizations with the same goal with similar ideals of getting to it. They need to be unified however the problem is that we are not unified at the moment and that's what the Jew wants. Keep continuing it and our downfall is inevitable.