Message from @Hunter491
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Socrates talked about that when he talked about his views on elitism. People tend to vote for the "sweets sellers" rather than the "doctors", since no one wants to hear the painful truth the doctor gives you.
unless an actual NS state is established I woudnt mind having a democracy like that of Switzerland, ofc it will only work if the population is racially homogenous, able to make rational decisions and of course if only adult men can vote
National Socialist Germany was a true democracy.
I'm inclined to believe democracy is impossible no matter how you organize it. Socrates was for what I understood a proponent of democracy just because he saw it as an inherent Athenian value. The democracy of the Athenians was way different than the parlamentarianism we know as "democracy" today.
@Thule it was a dictatorship my man
Sure, but he listened to his folk.
The greek meaning of the word democracy is good to keep in mind. Means "the people decide". What NS means in this context is imo "the Will of the volk". A big difference.
that doesn't mean it's a democracy at all then @Thule
@Hunter491 It's not just that you don't know them, it's also that there are clearly established dominant and merited key people around, its better if they naturally take the power they are suited for. In a very small community maybe it makes sense, since people might be nearly equally uneducated on how to run their community, so they need to base it on "Most people feel this way, so it's probably the least stupid choice"
NS Germany is gone, We should try to look for better models of governance lol
which would suit modern times
The Will of the Germans (and Aryans) met it's zenith in Hitler. He spoke the voice of all and acted with the Will of all.
Hitler manifested Germany so he was best suited to lead it
There are no better "models of governance" than the Hitlerian. Policies are arbitrary when it comes to empire building.
If a leader doesn't manifest the character and virtues of what he leads, he is not a true leader
In the end such a leader needs to rise naturally, not be elected after shelling out money on an electoral campaign and asking people to vote for him, it's just absurd
In this case even the elections in Germany that enabled Hitler were not mere elections, I mean you had open warfare in the streets between Hitlerists and opponents of all kinds
it was a battleground of force and action not a popularity contest of money and fikabröd
at any rate there will be no such person
Why do you say that? How do you know.
assuming we are talking about Europe
such person would be quickly assinated, bought off, blackmailed, his group would be infiltrated and exposes
leaderless resistance is what we need
The Aryan blood demands a Hero to be born. It is the prerequisite of it.
It is wyrd. Inevitable fate
I dont believe in this esotericism sorry
Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. Just look at Hitler.
I dont see him as this near godlike mythical person either
sorry
it's not esotericism even if he used an esoteric term
well even the term is just mythological, not esoteric
it's been acknowledged by countless men from antiquity to Hitler's own statements that history is changed by the hands of a few great personalities, not by the masses
oh I dont dispute that
Yup. There is a difference between just saying "nope" and actually thinking about it
all Im saying is that one person wont save Europe
he may save his own country
if it comes to that
But then you're denying what you don't dispute
im not denying anything, i just dont believe in fate therefore I dont think that some great person is predistined to show up