Message from @JDCREW
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Unrepentant murders, child rapes, worst of the worst crime
I think prisons should have forced work for crimes of a certain magnitude as well. Not hard inhuman labor, but something to keep the guys busy, maybe even pick up a job skill. Prisons should be government run, not privetized for profit
I think they should be government controlled, but for nonviolent crimes such as petty theft, or simple robbery, I think it's more important to ... what's the word? basically fix them rather than punishment. I believe in lowering the repeat offender rate before cruel punishment
Pro life/Pro death penalty Babies are innocent therefore they should not be killed for there parents being reckless, killing a child is not a way to fix your mistakes, murders deserve to die because they are not innocent.
And who says you are the one to kill him?
God can make people who don't follow Him do it.
God used pharaoh as an example for the world never to even think about fighting against God.
Right there it says that a man who kills another man must be slain. I think that in that specific context, it would mark him as killable, and it would not be wicked to slay that man by another's hand, but as discussed earlier, it gets a little funky regarding capital punishment in the Bible
It did not say must be slain it says he will be killed
big difference
is there?
"will be killed" imo seems like a demand to kill him
@hdcrew
@JDCREW It's a curse not a command
How do you mean?
You believe in curses and blessing correct?
Well imagine if I say this:
"I wish your life was cursed forever and all who see you despise you"
Of course i'd never want to say such a thing because I would never curse someone
well yes, but this seems more a command to Noah. part of his covenant with God if I remember correctly. The curses in Genesis are pretty explicit.
In Genesis 9:25-27 we read: “Then he said: ‘Cursed be Canaan ; a servant of servants he shall be to his brethren.’ And he said: ‘Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem , and may Canaan be his servant. May God enlarge Japheth , and may he dwell in the tents of Shem; and may Canaan be his servant.’”
Not all things are worded such a way
Hold on let me find the hebrew
No, but I am of the belief that God would have said "cursed be he who sheds the blood of man" rather than "he who sheds man's blood shall have his blood shed by man"
not in all places got says cursed be
I feel that it clearly says another man must kill he who commits murder
The word is powerful beyond what most people would think
Yes, but who particularly gave YOU the power to kill him?
I understand that, but it is not what I believe is meant from this passage of scripture
God will likely have someone else who is not a Christian kill the murderer
not me particularly, but God says a man who kills will be killed by man
Did he say that? my issue with that reasoning is that it never says "he who kills will be killed by someone without faith"
it says he who kills will be killed by another
So the LORD said to him, “Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold.” And the LORD [fn]appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him.
Gen 4:15
God didn't say cursed
in this situation
As a Christian should NEVER kill someone even if it's in the name of justice
God will execute his justice.
I understand that. once again, I feel we are off track there.
God could let satan have someone kill the murderer there's no point to having some firing squad kill someone
we're all sinners my friend. God does not control people. that's the whole reason there are non believers. He gave us free will to make our own decisions.