Nukes.

then the US risks destroying itself

We'd be destroyed anyways, why not take them with us?

nukes arent as much of a threat as they were 40 years ago, everyone has them now, nothing more than a vieled threat

Oh, they aren't? Why not?

because, with everyone making their own nukes, they've also been developing anti-nuke defenses

And you know of some that work?

well, since nukes are missile based, all you have to do is look at Isreals missile defense network, has a really high success rate against enemy missile artillery

Except that nukes do something that conventional missiles don't: They leak radioactive fallout.

nukes are fairly safe actually when not armed and blowing up, they dont leak radioactive fallout

Those are normal missiles, not ICBMs

Dude, you blow up a nuke, there will be radiation.

I might be wrong, but I don’t think nukes go off if you blow them up

Sure the components might be radioactive

But that’s pretty much it

they dont, because there are so many safety layers involved with Nukes that if you damage one it will purposefully disable itself so its no longer a danger

Unless it's armed.

even when its armed, it can shut itself off if its damaged and misses its target

You mean on the way to target kinda armed? Or ready to launch kind of armed?

Oh

hell, if you try hacking a nuke, it will purposefully deactivate itself so you cant use it

That’s... nice to know

its to prevent the enemy from hacking the nuke and making it blow up mid flight, to prevent some very horrid nuclear fallout over some poor fucks area

And you think people who use nukes haven't thought of these things and upgraded the arsenals?

And if they did, do you think you would have access to that information?

also, one of Russia's primary interceptor aircraft is designed in part to target ICBM's, is fast enough that it can enter the stratosphere where it can target more than just an ICBM, like satalights that are bouncing the control signal of the ICBM

The types of nukes we should be using in that situation should be limited to tactical nukes, like the kind that only takes out 3-4 blocks

Well, he's talking about the russians making a full-on offensive into Alaska.

That happens, no way nukes don't get used.

also, there is one small very big issue with nukes, even if the usage of one doesnt enact MAD, you literally cant hold the territory you just hit, meaning you have to cede that territory so you dont kill yourself with radiation

but it also means that the enemy cant hold that region either

And I don't mean just "we launch one to let them know what's up."

I mean Fallout 4 scenario full scale nuclear winter.

nukes for all purpose for modern warfare are pretty much useless if MAD isnt instantly enacted

Which is why it would be enacted.

mean sure, you force the enemy out of the region you want to capture, but it also means you cant go in and hold that territory to put a staging grounds at to dig deeper into enemy territory

But it doesn't matter because literally everyone will be dead, which is why Russia won't do it.

its why no one will fire a nuke, even in a full blown world war

Oh, someone would.

because the objective of war is the acquisition of land and control and influence as much regions as you can to beat the enemy into submission

And besides, you're thinking that everyone would be on your side, why so?

Why would they attack the North only?