Fields? Agent Orange.

Cities? Napalm.

and then by doing so, draw in other nations who wouldnt be so happy about the US committing active warcrimes against its own populace

Not saying I like it, but theres a reason we don't do that stuff to other countries, and those reasons have everything to do with politics.

Like who? China? Russia?

Nukes.

then that becomes MAD scenario

the US doesnt get to escape MAD

Right, neither do they, which is precisely why they *won't* intervene.

then you are mistaken, Russia and China are both interested in making blows against the US, and they will take whatever opurtunity they can to hurt the US, especially during a Civil War

No, what they'll do is use the opportunity to take all the land adjacent to them. China will devour Taiwan, Japan, the Phillipines, Laos, Cambodia. Russia will take all it's neighboring states (Latvia, romania, ect.)

you also realise that Russia's been poking into regions more than their neighbors, they've been poking into Alaskan airspace, the moment the oppurtunity arrises they would make an attack on Alaska while the US is heavily distracted

Nukes.

then the US risks destroying itself

We'd be destroyed anyways, why not take them with us?

nukes arent as much of a threat as they were 40 years ago, everyone has them now, nothing more than a vieled threat

Oh, they aren't? Why not?

because, with everyone making their own nukes, they've also been developing anti-nuke defenses

And you know of some that work?

well, since nukes are missile based, all you have to do is look at Isreals missile defense network, has a really high success rate against enemy missile artillery

Except that nukes do something that conventional missiles don't: They leak radioactive fallout.

nukes are fairly safe actually when not armed and blowing up, they dont leak radioactive fallout

Those are normal missiles, not ICBMs

Dude, you blow up a nuke, there will be radiation.

I might be wrong, but I don’t think nukes go off if you blow them up

Sure the components might be radioactive

But that’s pretty much it

they dont, because there are so many safety layers involved with Nukes that if you damage one it will purposefully disable itself so its no longer a danger

Unless it's armed.

even when its armed, it can shut itself off if its damaged and misses its target

You mean on the way to target kinda armed? Or ready to launch kind of armed?

Oh

hell, if you try hacking a nuke, it will purposefully deactivate itself so you cant use it

That’s... nice to know

its to prevent the enemy from hacking the nuke and making it blow up mid flight, to prevent some very horrid nuclear fallout over some poor fucks area

And you think people who use nukes haven't thought of these things and upgraded the arsenals?

And if they did, do you think you would have access to that information?

also, one of Russia's primary interceptor aircraft is designed in part to target ICBM's, is fast enough that it can enter the stratosphere where it can target more than just an ICBM, like satalights that are bouncing the control signal of the ICBM

The types of nukes we should be using in that situation should be limited to tactical nukes, like the kind that only takes out 3-4 blocks

Well, he's talking about the russians making a full-on offensive into Alaska.

That happens, no way nukes don't get used.