Message from @1776
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No talking
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This is an interesting point, but free will only states that an animal can choose what it does. To some extent it can evaluate its situation and make its own decision, even if that decision is based off of instinct. So, you’ve ended up providing proof to my point
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
Galatians 1:8-10
If any Mormons here know that verse above the angel that came down from heaven isn't what you think it
I'm not here to attack you Mormons but to inform you
daamn
I never that I would ever see a religion section in a server
zed had the guts, kudos
It can get to great conversations or become very chaotic
*slurp*
You said an animal can “evaluate a situation”...is that not reason? Instinct is really just a bodily function occurring in the mind of an animal. ...I will just reiterate and then I’ll go home that the two basic possessions of an immortal spirit are the gifts of understanding and free-will. Unless you believe animals have immortal souls, they cannot have free-will. I’ll end on a happy note, that we both believe animals are a part of God’s creation and should be treated with dignity no matter how small, or what purpose they provide for man who is the very image and likeness of God. Are we not blessed to possess the very same face that Our Lord condescended to possess? Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered! Let those who hate him flee before his Holy Face!
Most of the time
Time for the daily quote of the day
I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being,
Ephesians 3:16
"...Wise but not independent," yeah you're gonna have to explain that one. Since when does being wise make independence a negative thing? How do they even correlate in the first place? I would have thought 'obtuse' is a better fit, rather than sacking the idea of one's independence
No, the ideas simply lack a correlation in my mind. I see it in every other line, but not that one
Hi there.
Yes, it’s absolutely clear that animals can “reason” in some cases. They can clearly evaluate situations and their opponents. They do exhibit reasoning just not in the popular sense of the word, but no I don’t believe animals souls are eternal
This is based off of the fact that Godly wisdom and discernment is not like our human wisdom. It’s saying, “make me wise in the ways of true wisdom, but don’t let me become so arrogant that I believe that wisdom is my own”
That's great <:Dude:726878886411108474> I say the framing is off though in that image. Better terming needs to be used in my eyes, since words often have more than one meaning (specificity)
Yeah I see how it would trip up some people, are you Christian?
Yes, Protestant. I get real picky with word choice
As long as you follow Christ you’re good lol
hey
this is an important question
are Mormons considered Christians in your opinion
No
oh
why not
Who was the Messiah?
Jesus Christ who came down to earth to atone for our sins
Who was Joseph smith?