Message from @dbel
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Most notably the prophecies about Christ. Prophecies in Isaiah and psalms predicted how He would die before crucifixion was a known or used method, of course His birth was also predicted. His actions in healing the blind and sick were also prophesied, the presence of John the Baptist was also prophesied, how He would be treated was also prophesied.
Do you believe in evolution? What do you personally believe?
if a book exists, then there was an author, if a cow exists, there was a mother cow, if the earth exists, there was a creator. logic
I’m looking for someone to make a convincing argument for atheism too, but here we are
Lol cliche “I went to catholic school BUt”
Just because you read the Bible doesn’t mean you understand it
Do you know which Saint said this mr catholic “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.”
you realize even evolution scientists believe in a super natural beginning? There was always something that had to set off the start of the earth.
yes. and i just point out that according to christian "god is beyond mortal comprehension". where does your belief comes from? where does your personality comes from? i view all stances as irrational.
it is very high-horse of you to assume "everything must be facts or otherwise it isn't true"
unless one person made them both...
When I only agree with half of what you say 😂
again, quoting the christians i've spoken to: "god created it all. not just earth"
Lol “I went to catholic high school”
<:KEK:795742276549607456> sorry, pal
<:KEK:795742276549607456>
For what
yes. the big bang **THEORY**. not the big bang PROVEN FACT
The way I see it no matter what when we die you will all know the truth
<:KEK:795742276549607456> sorry, pal
yup, thats always how i put it
someday we will all be dead and know for sure who was right
depends on where you want to set the evolution as the zero point
my internet is crappy 🤣
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ya it's interesting i personally was questioning creation but when i really started digging deep into evolution i found out it is full of flaws. Did you know that most of the prominent scientists who founded evolution contradict eachother. They actually never proved their theories either. Most of their "discoveries" were actually just speculation. It's rare to find evolution scientists that will agree on evolution and how the earth came to be, whereas creationist all believe the same thing because the Bible was given as an eye witness. Just some food for thought for you. If you ever want to talk about evolution more and stuff dm me \:)
Let me get this straight, you want me to believe that before there was anything there was something, and that something which was the size of the nucleus of an atom kept gaining mass from something that was nothing until an external force came from somewhere, that somewhere being nowhere, to make the something that was nothing which was gaining something that was nothing into something else?
In one try?
Accounting for the critical mass of the whole universe?
By chance?
Yes, it took realizing the Catholic Church doesn’t technically endorse evolution for all the pieces of faith to come together.
i just wonder where the something before the everything came from
You really must be freaking out 😂
kinda sums up the whole evolution argument lol
i am not proving god exists or not. i am pointing out the flaw in your "scientific-backed" arguments
and i failed to see how is it ignorance. because we literally could never have verified how the earth, the creatures, the first cell appears. which is why i said "depends on where you want to set the evolution as the zero point". i think evolution may have occurred. but the "when did the first cell appear" is still unanswered by the scientist community
Micro evolution exists. Macro has not been proven.
There are a couple trains of thought within creationism with all of them believe is God is The Creator. The only thing they differ on is time
if there was nothing, were did everything spontaniously come from? how did it violate newtons law which says that without outside interference nothing moves on its own? how did it then spontaniously creat everything from the nothing which it is?
No it isn’t a straw man, it’s what an atheist wants others to believe
so do most athiests beleive that something started evolution? something other than nothing that is?
You say you are catholic— here’s a video by a catholic who debunks evolution. The emperor of Evolution isn’t wearing any clothes! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxizpkwbyo