so do most athiests beleive that something started evolution? something other than nothing that is?

You say you are catholic— here’s a video by a catholic who debunks evolution. The emperor of Evolution isn’t wearing any clothes! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxizpkwbyo

If you have advocated for atheism to a theist and used the Big Bang as a model of creation then you have

okay. so if the scientists can't prove it yet, why the hell are you trying to fault people for believing there is a "bigger hand" that created it?

another way of saying i dont want to acckowledge the flaw in my reasoning

you do realize there are different types of people, right? some are certainty-oriented and others are uncertainty-oriented

It’s not really a straw man, it is simplified yes but it’s true

not the not knowing, the part about nothing spontaniously making everythin out of nothing

If you can’t prove it though so are you

There are some things that are proven in a lab where we can alter DNA but there is some things that evolutionists believe in that are just not possible such as adaptation. they say the earth is millions of years old but the chances of adaptation actually occurring naturally are 1/364...followed by 1,652 zeroes. The odds of adaptations actually happening naturally are astronomically ridiculous. Your more likely to win the powerball lottery 200 times in a row than adaptation to occur once.

so something started evolution

again: you realized that not everybody lives by the "scientific facts" or it's not true, right?

My you was a general you, that said if you believe in the Big Bang and want theists not to be theists then you would hold that view

and really. i am just baffled that you think people are "irrational" for believing in something that is yet to be proven. if it is proven, you can called them out. but it has YET to be proven, and here you are still saying assuming/extrapolate is wrong

i mean, athiests call us idiots for beleiving in God

Peak is about as catholic as Biden 😂

we all believe stuff with no proof

like the big bang theory

or God

sure. that is their belief. there are images that showed otherwise, but i have yet to travel out of space to verified it and call them dumb

But you can’t prove life would form on earth using evolution either. You can’t prove that the universe could be formed without God either, yet you clearly believe in these things

That makes you just as irrational

god is a form of faith, hope and reflection & a projection of us, imo. again, i don't know if there is an actual big god in the sky. but i believe there is a creator

Evolutionary *theory*

And again, I guarantee you won’t believe me and will ignore the fact that at the end of the day you are just as irrational as you claim creationists are

hey, thats a good place to start

And I don’t really care 😂

partially true. again, since you're really into science, read some psychology paper. it is proven that humans make irrational decision and justified them later on. therefore, yes, it is irrational. but it is very upturned-attitude from you to assume somehow you are more "rational" than them

best thing i've seen the whole discussion

First off lab settings are called lab settings because often times they don’t happen naturally, second if you are referring to the Miller Urey experiment not only was it flawed but when corrected didn’t produce the expected results

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050325100541.htm

Of course they fired him because it goes against their theories

rip

ya ill find it for you

Yes burden of proof, evolution is the newer theory and has the burden of proof to irrefutably convince the older theory. You also came to the faith and religion chat attempting to fulfill your own goals with atheism and evolution putting the burden of proof once again on you as you attempt to contradict the primary point in this channel. You haven’t done so, as a matter of fact you give somewhat mediocre arguments at best and then insult those who believe in God

That’s called micro evolution and is different to macro evolution theory that you are familiar with. https://www.kolbecenter.org/should-catholics-believe-in-evolution/

Ey! whats up eggy?

Lab settings don't happen naturally. You can "prove" anything in a lab setting because you can manipulate it

also, it didnt happen spontaniously in a lab setting, someone started it

But evolution is something that couldn't have been controlled. You can make anything happen if you control it. I can control a rock by picking it up, but that doesn't mean it'll pick itself up.

If you come up with a new theory you have the burden of proof, thus newer theories have burden of proof.