Message from @DeButcher
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laughable
You're misconstruing my argument.
how so
explain it to me
what don't I understand
Bloody heck, this Wi-Fi...
Freaking hate my schools wi-fi, I'll have to come back later
lmao I understand
its not really context of the time, but context of the word slavery, people are saying that slavery as said in the exodus verses means a Voluntary indentured servitude in where the 'master' is paying the 'slave' or servant in other translations. The problem here seems to be a lack of solid definition of the word slavery in that verse.
Not true. Indentured servitude is never voluntary and never right
I wouldn’t say that the Bible is pro slavery just because it has slavery in it, if anything, it’s anti-slavery, Jesus constantly identified with the poor, slaves, and sinners, also let’s not forget that Joseph is a man that is sold into slavery and ends up second only to the Pharaoh! That shows that through God you can do anything!
God would know what is ultimately moral, and if he says people won't be punished for owning and beating "their property" then that is equally abhorent
@Onespicyboi God says people who own indentured servants won't be punished unless they KILL THEM
this is wrong, people have many times in history worked for somebody else to recieve something in return out of their volentury choice to work for them
He only objects to his chosen people being enslaved
That's not what indentured servitude is
then how do you define it
Indentured servitude is involuntary labor, usually in regards to ancient POWs
i thought it was a contract where you say "hey im gonna work for you if you do this for me"
I want to see the receipts...
scroll up
Or damage the body of the slave. Nothing wrong punishing a slave but you can't damage the slave. Reread exodus 21
bruh
that's what I'm saying
Punishment or physical harm is not prohibited unless they don't recover in 3 days
Well that's interesting... Reading Exodus 21
6 ¶ And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.
So slavery is illegal
26 ¶ And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye’s sake.
27 And if he smite out his manservant’s tooth, or his maidservant’s tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth’s sake
If the master punishes the slave unto permanent damage, such as missing eye or hand he is required to let the slave go
Or what wound he caused will be inflicted on him
Also, servants are not slaves, there's a difference between the two
@Ranger_720 , we were all wrong, it isn't indentured servitude, if the man puts himself on the market and bought he is to be treated fairly.
I won't be responding for a while, data is expensive...
Servant/slave is a difference in translations. Moreover, this just highlights the fact that the bible contradicts itself multiple times.
This whole argument proves Christianity is sketchy because, even citing valid verses, its true meaning is up for debate!
These are novice level "Contradictions."
Tell me, if killing a person is wrong why do we use the death penalties for serial killers? Better yet, why do we bother to kill war criminals? Why do we bother to even have an army that are TRAINED to kill?
This just highlights the fact that government contradicts itself multiple times.
And if the government contradicts itself it has to be some fiction someone created right?
Well, thats what your arguments logic implies anyway.
Not at all
That is stupid logic
Absolute idiocy