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For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
Doing good comes as a result of our salvation, not the cause
yo pray for Rush Limbaugh, just heard he died. ;-;
The term "believe in Jesus" does not mean to simply believe He was real, but more to put your trust in Him.
Satan knows Jesus is real, and is the Son of God, but that doesn't make him saved.
You have to put your trust and faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who died on the cross for your sins (YOU personally) and rose again on the 3rd day.
If you do that, you accept the free gift of forgiveness and salvation of God. All your sins are forgiven and forgotten.
@Pizzacork its pretty clear through the NT that we are saved by faith and not works, i still hold the opinion that the book of James is there to help us get a better feeling if the people around us holds true faith or they are lying.
And yes, the saved still struggle with sin, and addiction to sin, but this is different to sinning when you're not saved.
If you attempt to 'abuse' His grace, then you were never genuine in repentance in the first place.
I see this argument a ton, yes it is most likely true. However, it is simply a redirection used to end the conversation. I really don't understand the conclusion, if you are saved and then sin, only to repent and then sin again, you are still saved. Is that agreeable?
There is some debate on whether you can lose your salvation or not.
I personally believe that if you were truly saved, you can't lose your salvation.
When we are saved and sin, we feel the guilt for it, and know what we did was wrong. While when you're not saved, you may not feel any guilt at all (depending on what you did, of course).
The difference is, when we're saved, we try to do better and not sin, even if we fail, we still tried. We're still not perfect. While those not saved may not care if they do certain things or not (maybe not the case for murder and such, but more so for things that the world has deemed good, but Christ said otherwise).
One thing people who argue that you can lose it use is Judas after he betrayed Jesus
They try to claim that all of the disciples were saved but there is no evidence to support that.
Think of it as a sinking ship (being the world) with no land in sight.
Some people don't even realize the ship is sinking. Others know that it is, but don't know what to do. And the Christians are in the life boats (which are Jesus Christ) that are using navigation (which would be the Holy Spirit) to go towards the land (that is God the Father in Heaven).
The Christians tell people to come this way to safety, but no one believes them.
While the people in the life boat may drift around a little, they are still on the way to land.
Some may have started to follow, but turned back to the ship. Others may have gotten lost and are going in circles
But the ones who turned back or got lost, were never committed to going in the first place
and if you're wondering how the ones who got lost were at fault and not committed, they took off on detours and breaks, thinking they would always still be able to follow the main lifeboats, only to find they couldn't see them anymore.
I think this article is a good read. Check it out
i just wonder, if we could save ourselves, why did Jesus have to die?
We should first identify what faith, salvation and work is
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I would say faith is trust in the Lord, to follow even if you don't know the reason for things.
Salvation would be God's forgiveness of you, and your justification and redemption.
And works, things or actions that you do in the world.
agreed
11 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. 2 For by it the people of old received their commendation. 3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.
Hebrews 11:1-3
happy Ash Wednesday to everyone who celebrates
Rest in peace Rush Limbaugh, may God find a place for you in eternal rest <:slpyDorime:733596141249364028>
The warrior finally gets to rest.
That is true, but being religeous isnt a good quality in general. Jesus hated it in the church leadership of his day.
Church leadrship of his day?
Pharasies
he had a LOT to say about them
Yup
Jesus didnt believe in religion, he believed in making a difference.
Yes, i truly agree on that one
He was a Jew
So yes he did believe in religion
But he agreed more with bringing people to God and to heaven
And saving humanity from sin
Jesus did not believe in religion. Religion is not the same as faith. There are millions of christians who think going to church and acting religious on sunday is all they need to be "good with god."
they have no faith what so ever
and the moment something bad happens they will go "How can a good god do such bad things? I dont beleive in him anymore." despite beliving in him in the same way a person beleives in a vending machine.
You’re right, you need so much more than that