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According to that scripture you must do good to go to heaven, you cannot do evil or what it lists

The thing about good deeds and bad deeds, sometimes people think you weigh one against the other and if you have enough good deeds you are good, i like to think of it as a cup, for every good deed you get one drop of water, for every bad deed you get a drop of posion, at the end you need to drink the cup, i know i wouldnt want to drink mine

I don’t think anyone is good so obviously it can’t outweigh it, but it is still necessary to do good or you won’t go to heaven

Romans 10:8-9 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

I think its important to look at that verse in context, the entire chapter revolves around relationships between believers, I as flesh and blood can't know where your heart is , all i can know about where you are with the Lord is how you behave, and whether or not it is in line of what jesus taught, on the other hand God does know your heart and he truly knows if gave your life to christ (sorry for my english if there are any mistakes)

I mean it says pretty clearly to do good works. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also

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For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9

Doing good comes as a result of our salvation, not the cause

yo pray for Rush Limbaugh, just heard he died. ;-;

The term "believe in Jesus" does not mean to simply believe He was real, but more to put your trust in Him.
Satan knows Jesus is real, and is the Son of God, but that doesn't make him saved.
You have to put your trust and faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who died on the cross for your sins (YOU personally) and rose again on the 3rd day.
If you do that, you accept the free gift of forgiveness and salvation of God. All your sins are forgiven and forgotten.

@Pizzacork its pretty clear through the NT that we are saved by faith and not works, i still hold the opinion that the book of James is there to help us get a better feeling if the people around us holds true faith or they are lying.

And yes, the saved still struggle with sin, and addiction to sin, but this is different to sinning when you're not saved.
If you attempt to 'abuse' His grace, then you were never genuine in repentance in the first place.

I see this argument a ton, yes it is most likely true. However, it is simply a redirection used to end the conversation. I really don't understand the conclusion, if you are saved and then sin, only to repent and then sin again, you are still saved. Is that agreeable?

There is some debate on whether you can lose your salvation or not.
I personally believe that if you were truly saved, you can't lose your salvation.
When we are saved and sin, we feel the guilt for it, and know what we did was wrong. While when you're not saved, you may not feel any guilt at all (depending on what you did, of course).

The difference is, when we're saved, we try to do better and not sin, even if we fail, we still tried. We're still not perfect. While those not saved may not care if they do certain things or not (maybe not the case for murder and such, but more so for things that the world has deemed good, but Christ said otherwise).

One thing people who argue that you can lose it use is Judas after he betrayed Jesus

They try to claim that all of the disciples were saved but there is no evidence to support that.

Think of it as a sinking ship (being the world) with no land in sight.
Some people don't even realize the ship is sinking. Others know that it is, but don't know what to do. And the Christians are in the life boats (which are Jesus Christ) that are using navigation (which would be the Holy Spirit) to go towards the land (that is God the Father in Heaven).
The Christians tell people to come this way to safety, but no one believes them.

While the people in the life boat may drift around a little, they are still on the way to land.
Some may have started to follow, but turned back to the ship. Others may have gotten lost and are going in circles

But the ones who turned back or got lost, were never committed to going in the first place

and if you're wondering how the ones who got lost were at fault and not committed, they took off on detours and breaks, thinking they would always still be able to follow the main lifeboats, only to find they couldn't see them anymore.

https://www.gotquestions.org/salvation-by-works.html

I think this article is a good read. Check it out

i just wonder, if we could save ourselves, why did Jesus have to die?

We should first identify what faith, salvation and work is

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I would say faith is trust in the Lord, to follow even if you don't know the reason for things.
Salvation would be God's forgiveness of you, and your justification and redemption.
And works, things or actions that you do in the world.

agreed

11 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. 2 For by it the people of old received their commendation. 3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.
Hebrews 11:1-3

happy Ash Wednesday to everyone who celebrates

Rest in peace Rush Limbaugh, may God find a place for you in eternal rest <:slpyDorime:733596141249364028>

The warrior finally gets to rest.

That is true, but being religeous isnt a good quality in general. Jesus hated it in the church leadership of his day.

Church leadrship of his day?

Pharasies

he had a LOT to say about them