Message from @Jacques de Chan

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2020-12-31 01:41:48 UTC  

they know more about that than politics

2020-12-31 01:42:11 UTC  

"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon." And a man will die for a woman.

2020-12-31 01:42:31 UTC  

you have control by a pyriamid hirearchy based on a ratio of seniority(time with the job) and ability(manifest skill in field)

2020-12-31 01:42:47 UTC  

Did any of you reinvite the greek nietzchean guy

2020-12-31 01:42:47 UTC  

no u have control by stockholders

2020-12-31 01:42:53 UTC  

rich faggots with zero reason to care about the nation

2020-12-31 01:43:11 UTC  

You don't need the people who haul boxes voting on how much the steel should cost in your bulk export deal with Germany

2020-12-31 01:43:14 UTC  

worker ownership at least ensures they wont close their own factory down to sell the jobs to china

2020-12-31 01:43:22 UTC  

thats not the shit they vote on

2020-12-31 01:43:29 UTC  

it would still be a representative system

2020-12-31 01:43:30 UTC  

you don't need worker ownership for that

2020-12-31 01:43:41 UTC  

you can just force them not to outsource

2020-12-31 01:43:50 UTC  

yes but this is about cohesion

2020-12-31 01:43:53 UTC  

Tariffs are back in style

2020-12-31 01:44:30 UTC  

Capitalists should not be allowed to grow past the middle class imo

2020-12-31 01:44:37 UTC  

^

2020-12-31 01:44:41 UTC  

Also a democratic work place would fall apart as much as a democratic government, they would vote for more gibs, less hours, higher pay, and more control to charismatic sociopaths

2020-12-31 01:44:47 UTC  

indeed

2020-12-31 01:45:18 UTC  

thats only if ur doing it based off of wage labor

2020-12-31 01:45:32 UTC  

how would this work

2020-12-31 01:45:44 UTC  

stock is better compensation tbh

2020-12-31 01:45:52 UTC  

Oh god... a democratic workplace where everyone is paid off comission, is this like an ancap dystopia?

2020-12-31 01:46:12 UTC  

you are your own shareholder

2020-12-31 01:46:27 UTC  

its just called a cooperative bro

2020-12-31 01:46:36 UTC  

But common guy doesn't understand let alone care about shares or stocks

2020-12-31 01:46:41 UTC  

Progressive taxation

2020-12-31 01:46:52 UTC  

shares are just % ownership of the company dude

2020-12-31 01:47:08 UTC  

and votes to elect the board of directors

2020-12-31 01:47:08 UTC  

Not letting them reach a certain percentage of GDP.

2020-12-31 01:47:18 UTC  

Why though

2020-12-31 01:47:36 UTC  

I mean ideally I'd agree that we shouldn't have people with the wealth of countries

2020-12-31 01:47:39 UTC  

Because they take advantage of the protections given to them by the warrior caste.

2020-12-31 01:47:39 UTC  

because having a strong bourgeoisie gives them unnecessary amounts of power

2020-12-31 01:47:41 UTC  

^

2020-12-31 01:47:48 UTC  

but industrialists/billionaires have a purpose

2020-12-31 01:47:54 UTC  

you can do what China does

2020-12-31 01:48:06 UTC  

Yea but 85 monkey brain man who pushes boxes from the green zone to the blue zone for 12 hours a day, when you tell him he is no longer getting Jordans for Christmas but a 2.5% increase in his share value for Christmas bonus he is going to chimp out.

2020-12-31 01:48:10 UTC  

mate just dont let them get to a point where u have to assassinate them in the first place

2020-12-31 01:48:15 UTC  

SOEs work, china proves this

2020-12-31 01:48:17 UTC  

85iq*

2020-12-31 01:48:18 UTC  

cooperatives work, mondragon proves this