I agree with you in the sense that they are using it for their own power but there's a difference between that and what America does in the sense of imperialism

rather than ideological

this is just going to be 2 powers trying outfuck each other for pure material benefit

yea exactly

ofc not

I'll use the US for now on but I assume you guys could have implied what I meant from there

Nuke China

No 🥱

well the issue is that if they end up defeating US

Get this in VC @oistoy

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Even if America collapses, China won't be able to conquer the world

they aren't going to move on to fighting ideological war from that point onward

it dosen't have that sort of power projection

Never claimed that

I know, but a lot of people nowadays think that

Well I never mentioned it would totally be an ideological war in the 1st place

like I can't imagine China doing nation building in Middle east, trying to turn Iraq into a Maoist-Dengist people's republic

Lmao

since we've been living in through the 2nd Yellow peril

I wish they would

That'd be interesting

because it would be funny

China dosen't care about ideology anymore

nobody besides US does

really

^^

that's why US is loosing their conflict with Chinese

the same way Soviets did

ideological flexibility?

yea

@Pacem old pfp was better

Soviets didn't support regimes that weren't Marxist Leninist

while US supported Franco, Salazar, Pinochet

purely out of strategic consideration

the Chinese will now support anyone from Pakistani islamists to radlibs in Germany if it gets them closer to their goals

while US will be restricted to supporting opposing ideologies on a purely covert level

I heard they supported Franco and Pinochet but Salazar? I thought Salazar didn't really want business with the US in general as they were divorcing themselves from American political influences

https://www.thisworldthesedays.com/discordisgoingtobeshutdownon2021.html