Message from @ToaWarrior1488

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2021-01-16 20:23:38 UTC  

It's the main price method that new firms use today

2021-01-16 20:23:39 UTC  

are the prices stable in a depression

2021-01-16 20:23:41 UTC  

/big corporations

2021-01-16 20:24:07 UTC  

yes, in our current depression prices actually became steady and even rose a bit instead of going fully down

2021-01-16 20:25:13 UTC  

just because prices aren't changing much in a certain time span doesn't mean firms don't respond at all to supply and demand

2021-01-16 20:25:30 UTC  

They barley. I never said they didn't respond at all but they don't respond the majority of the time

2021-01-16 20:25:53 UTC  

Marx still had fake and gay theories about price too though

2021-01-16 20:25:55 UTC  

Price isn't decided by SNLT

2021-01-16 20:27:29 UTC  

lol no even during times of rigid prices s&d still apply and the current recession is proof - a shitton of business rationed goods (instead of immediately increasing prices) because the shortage of goods would've been even worse otherwise

2021-01-16 20:27:38 UTC  

All you've established is that during a recession most economists predict that prices will be affected more by demand than they are but that doesn't establish that supply and demand aren't the fundamental factors predicting people's economic activity

2021-01-16 20:27:48 UTC  

s&d has not been debunked - it has been augmented and expanded

2021-01-16 20:28:31 UTC  

if firms don't respond much to supply and demand then you can respond better and make more money

2021-01-16 20:28:50 UTC  

all of yall need the pussy theory of value lmao

2021-01-16 20:29:28 UTC  

why aren't you taking up this business opportunity

2021-01-16 20:30:32 UTC  

things like the labour theory of value are archaic theories that attempt to provide an objective measurement of value just like you raged at marginalism for with their marginal utility, obviously value is subjective not objective

2021-01-16 20:30:47 UTC  

Marx was just working off of Adam Smith and David Ricardos theories which were wrong

2021-01-16 20:31:09 UTC  

even his theory of explotation works off of faulty assumptions that they both made when it comes to value

2021-01-16 20:32:55 UTC  

No they don't. D (Demand) and S (Supply) didn't change anything during the recession so how could it have applied? A shit ton of business didn't fluctuate because of demand because first of all barley anyone was going out so ofc due to the lockdown it was not going to change a bit in the long-run and second of all because once the lock down chilled down prices still stayed rigid due to the mass price stickiness not caused by S&D but CB+MU pricing.

2021-01-16 20:33:08 UTC  

Marginalism still assumes S&D flexibility.

2021-01-16 20:33:25 UTC  

Why is LTV wrong? I'm not a big fan of LTV mainly because of its presupposition about price but I want to hear your critique

2021-01-16 20:34:46 UTC  

Well I obviously think that there is an empirical correlation between labor and price I think that the fundamental factors that are going on within the economy is the people have subjective preference for the product not the value that went into making the product

2021-01-16 20:35:21 UTC  

Well in order to have that value, the value had to be put in there.

2021-01-16 20:35:27 UTC  

Like you can explain the empirical evidence you see when it comes to someone like cockshot for example within a subjective theory of value

2021-01-16 20:35:36 UTC  

I'm not a fan of Cockshott

2021-01-16 20:35:37 UTC  

take it to vc

2021-01-16 20:35:58 UTC  

I don't see the point of a VC debate over chad economic debate

2021-01-16 20:35:59 UTC  

Take it to VrilChat

2021-01-16 20:36:32 UTC  

welp take it to <#793519133177675802>

2021-01-16 20:38:31 UTC  

oh shut up @1brieflife

2021-01-16 20:46:37 UTC  

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2021-01-16 21:02:38 UTC  

@oistoy I might’ve just organize that debate with the scot for you

2021-01-16 21:02:54 UTC  

What is your Twitter @

2021-01-16 21:03:39 UTC  

We can record it and upload it as well

2021-01-16 21:03:50 UTC  

Cuz we need dunk on leftnats

2021-01-16 21:06:28 UTC  

let's just get him in here for now recording it is crange

2021-01-16 21:06:36 UTC  

I'll message him rn

2021-01-16 21:08:22 UTC  

Yeah any specific topics @oistoy of your wishing?

2021-01-16 21:10:14 UTC  

nothing in particular
mostly racism lol

2021-01-16 21:10:58 UTC  

“Dialectical Rascism” wtf does that mean

2021-01-16 21:11:48 UTC  

More like imperialism

2021-01-16 21:12:09 UTC  

@oistoy I wouldn't refuse recording, we need dunks on leftnats