Message from @Jacques de Chan

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2021-02-25 00:19:19 UTC  

Literally nobody cares about morality

2021-02-25 00:19:22 UTC  

Talking wilsomian idealism here

2021-02-25 00:19:27 UTC  

National self determination

2021-02-25 00:19:43 UTC  

You can't say we did x immoral thing in war because war is inherently immoral

2021-02-25 00:20:01 UTC  

We went to Vietnam because they violated the sovereignty of South Vietnam

2021-02-25 00:20:13 UTC  

France want even involved they already lost the Indochina war

2021-02-25 00:20:25 UTC  

Nope French asked Eisenhower to help

2021-02-25 00:20:30 UTC  

And we did not want Soviet sphere to increase

2021-02-25 00:20:58 UTC  

It wasn't even about stopping communism because again we helped Pol Pot

2021-02-25 00:21:07 UTC  

and made friends with China

2021-02-25 00:21:41 UTC  

yeah but making friends with china literally only let the usa's have a foreign policy of them turning a blind eye saying they'll democratize lolololololol

2021-02-25 00:22:10 UTC  

wilsonian idealism fell off after Wilson btw especially after ww2

2021-02-25 00:22:13 UTC  

American foreign policy takes a big L on the China question

2021-02-25 00:22:26 UTC  

Befriending China literally won us the cold war

2021-02-25 00:22:27 UTC  

a detente with Soviet Union (Cold War) isnโ€™t wilsonian idelaism

2021-02-25 00:22:36 UTC  

Someone should've assassinated Deng before he had his big brain ideas

2021-02-25 00:22:36 UTC  

yeah ofc cause america followed the idea of the enemy of my enemy

2021-02-25 00:22:39 UTC  

China is fine they would reach were they are today regardless

2021-02-25 00:22:40 UTC  

no lol

2021-02-25 00:22:49 UTC  

how low iq do you have to be to think that

2021-02-25 00:23:04 UTC  

"hmmmmmmmmmm today we will liberalize the economy"

2021-02-25 00:23:08 UTC  

๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

2021-02-25 00:23:27 UTC  

whether brehznev glasses china or not, they'll still remain at a permanent split and china's expansive economic growth would've slowed drastically without american support

2021-02-25 00:23:32 UTC  

China liberalizing was the best thing they ever did lmao

2021-02-25 00:23:40 UTC  

Of course

2021-02-25 00:23:42 UTC  

yeah but that isnt good for america lol

2021-02-25 00:23:46 UTC  

^

2021-02-25 00:23:50 UTC  

China was literally always going to explode economically

2021-02-25 00:23:59 UTC  

if it had access to those markets yeah

2021-02-25 00:24:35 UTC  

Polotics isn't some net zero game China developing doesn't make us poorer

2021-02-25 00:24:42 UTC  

literally all i'm saying is that making friends with them was irrelevant to cuckolding the ussr and their policy of being friendly with china made them weaker in contrast

2021-02-25 00:24:43 UTC  

it is though

2021-02-25 00:24:46 UTC  

it is though

2021-02-25 00:25:13 UTC  

China developing involves western companies outsourcing their labour and production to China

2021-02-25 00:25:37 UTC  

the only positive is that china is outsourcing themselves to africa to try to sustain their economic growth and trying to get a huge tech industry

2021-02-25 00:26:09 UTC  

but regardless it makes a lot of people who previously had skills in manufacturing unemployed and unprofitable

2021-02-25 00:26:19 UTC  

Good!

2021-02-25 00:26:28 UTC  

Learn IT

2021-02-25 00:26:57 UTC  

time to learn to code

2021-02-25 00:27:05 UTC  

coding is the future...