Message from @John O -

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2017-09-18 21:59:17 UTC  

It,s kind of crazy because in a residential setting the ground wires are bare. I always thought it was crazy that you had all these live parts and then your ground conductors were always bare

2017-09-18 22:03:21 UTC  

Right on, I have both a fish tape and glowrods. I always preferred the glow rod. Coaxial cable is so easy to fish though.
@Deleted User that is crazy. Any reason it's bare?

2017-09-18 22:11:19 UTC  

I would say probably cost. They used to pull bare neutrals in conduit years ago but they discovered if someone broke a wire between a load and the panel the conduit would become energized as the neutral path to ground. That's why bare wire is not used in conduit anymore. Romex and certain grounding situations where you are burying a wire for grounding purposes for let's say service there are exceptions that allow you to use the bare copper

2017-09-18 22:13:16 UTC  

In regards to fishing wires in conduit. They make a vacuum system called a vacuum fish tape that uses little sponges with a wire connected to them that you hook a nylon string to and vacuum that device called a mouse through the conduit. It is used for long runs. It works good in PVC pipe because it is glued but if the pipe has been in the ground and has condensation water built up in it sometimes it will slow it down. You can use it in long runs of EMT which is the metal tubing but you have to have what they call compression fittings coupling the pipe together

2017-09-18 22:21:11 UTC  

I've never had a problem sucking rats in screw type connected EMT

2017-09-18 22:22:57 UTC  

@Deleted User wow, that's cool. I learned something today. I didn't know about that vacuum thing. Thanks bro

2017-09-18 22:25:13 UTC  

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2017-09-18 22:25:29 UTC  

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2017-09-18 22:25:47 UTC  

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2017-09-18 22:26:16 UTC  

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2017-09-18 22:26:49 UTC  

You can also just use a plastic bag, a shop vac, and jet line if you're doing it on the cheap

2017-09-18 22:28:33 UTC  

Yeah once have the gist you can use just about anything. I was on a job once and was searching for some plastic and ended up using part of a Fritos bag. I've used them with screw conduits before but it just depends on how big the conduit is and how long the run is.

2017-09-18 22:30:14 UTC  

I was about to ask how long of a run can you do that ghetto way?
I was just curious, because everyone has a different way to fish wire

2017-09-18 22:30:25 UTC  

@John O - so youre an electrician also?

2017-09-18 22:31:39 UTC  

Not yet, going to take my Journeyman's in a few months. I had a convo with you about it a week ago.

2017-09-18 22:32:25 UTC  

Lol that's right I'm sorry. It has been a rough couple of weeks. What part of the country are you in

2017-09-18 22:32:45 UTC  

It's cool, Florida

2017-09-18 22:33:46 UTC  

That's right. I'm just getting senile in my old age. Are you going to hit him up for a raise once you get your journeyman's

2017-09-18 22:36:28 UTC  

I'm probably going to quit. I'm thinking about moving to Seattle, where I can get $35/hr so that I can save up for when the housing market drops.

2017-09-18 22:36:38 UTC  

Maybe California. Idk yet.

2017-09-18 22:37:59 UTC  

The company I work for is huge, and since the pay isn't great, a lot of my coworkers are Haitians or Hispanics. I get a bit tired of it, and I'm not sure I want to be in charge of a bunch of guys who resent me for being white boy in charge

2017-09-18 22:38:41 UTC  

I understand that! What kind of a foothold do the unions have in those areas?

2017-09-18 22:39:27 UTC  

If that's your picture for your avatar you look to be about 24

2017-09-18 22:40:13 UTC  

None

2017-09-18 22:40:15 UTC  

I was just asking I was trying to figure out how long you been in the trade total

2017-09-18 22:40:25 UTC  

I'm 22

2017-09-18 22:40:34 UTC  

Got my job 2 weeks out of highschool

2017-09-18 22:40:53 UTC  

Yes it seems like two unions have a stronger hold the further north you go up to Northeastern Corridor. Up around New York and New Jersey if you don't have a union card you don't get much work

2017-09-18 22:41:38 UTC  

Yes I graduated high school and two weeks later had a job as an electrician. I didn't know what I was getting into at the time. I really enjoy it though I don't think I would have gone another direction if I could do it over

2017-09-18 22:42:21 UTC  

I was college bound, pretty happy that I missed out on that

2017-09-18 22:43:11 UTC  

Yeah most of these colleges are freaking cancer. Feeding these kids heads full of b*******

2017-09-18 22:56:47 UTC  

My family has been oven middle class for 3 generations. My mom still flips out at me, despite my p nice net worth.

2017-09-18 22:57:43 UTC  

My dad and I are the first out of three generations, cousins included, on both sides, not to get a 4 year diploma.

2017-09-18 23:39:11 UTC  

I need to get my Master's, but I want to see the country a little while I'm still young.

2017-09-18 23:39:22 UTC  

It's definitely a top priority.

2017-09-25 23:50:10 UTC  

@Deleted User I love under counter lights.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/362023006337368064/20170216_141600.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/362023006811193354/20170216_141650.jpg

2017-09-25 23:50:58 UTC  

And those "hidden" plugs are sweet

2017-09-25 23:54:43 UTC  

Yes sir! What kind of cabinet is that with the strips mounted in it?

2017-09-26 00:17:51 UTC  

I think they were mounted after. I don't know anything about those cabinets, they were in a house in the triangle.

2017-09-29 22:21:36 UTC  

Koba bought some weird ass Chinese electronic lightbulb.

2017-09-29 22:23:25 UTC  

an electrician isnt going to be able to help me out with it but thanks