Message from @Marlow

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2017-10-26 21:27:15 UTC  

this is not a government with millions of people

2017-10-26 21:27:30 UTC  

again, non-sequitur

2017-10-26 21:27:33 UTC  

didn't say it was

2017-10-26 21:28:25 UTC  

i dont think you need any kind of a collective owndership to have a functioning community. There are otherways to ensure the strength of a community, such as normal personal relationships

2017-10-26 21:28:54 UTC  

yeah it doesn't need to be codified into rule

2017-10-26 21:29:11 UTC  

because small communities already operate along strong communal ties

2017-10-26 21:29:25 UTC  

they're functionally socialst, without being explicitly politically socialist

2017-10-26 21:29:42 UTC  

ehh are they?

2017-10-26 21:29:47 UTC  

in what way?

2017-10-26 21:29:55 UTC  

yeah if your neighbor needs help raising a barn

2017-10-26 21:29:58 UTC  

@Orchid if you can interpret charity as "socialism"

2017-10-26 21:29:58 UTC  

you're going to help him

2017-10-26 21:30:03 UTC  

without asking for compensation

2017-10-26 21:30:08 UTC  

it's not even charity

2017-10-26 21:30:11 UTC  

it's just being neighborly

2017-10-26 21:30:22 UTC  

they also started when land could be bought for 5 bucks an acre...if i could buy land for that it wouldnt be a problem with needing to essentially crowdfund

2017-10-26 21:30:26 UTC  

ah alright

2017-10-26 21:30:30 UTC  

charity is a more accurate term for it than socialism

2017-10-26 21:30:34 UTC  

but we get what we mean

2017-10-26 21:30:37 UTC  

so it doesn't matter

2017-10-26 21:30:41 UTC  

if your friend has a sick kid and is struggling to pay for treatment, you're probably going to pitch in a few hundred, or even thousand

2017-10-26 21:30:59 UTC  

but charity has this connotation of helping "the lesser"

2017-10-26 21:31:07 UTC  

mmmh

2017-10-26 21:31:08 UTC  

in this case I wouldn't be giving my bro charity

2017-10-26 21:31:11 UTC  

yeah, kinda does

2017-10-26 21:31:18 UTC  

yeah thats the kind of community I can get behind

2017-10-26 21:31:21 UTC  

even if it's not strictly in the definitions

2017-10-26 21:31:28 UTC  

I would be just being a bro... the same bro he would be to me if I needed such help

2017-10-26 21:31:43 UTC  

and it's something that comes naturally to us as European homonids

2017-10-26 21:32:12 UTC  

yeah, set up the right context and agree to keep out harmful influences and it'll go fine

2017-10-26 21:32:17 UTC  

this is the same altruistic impulse socialists and jews (i repeat myself) exploit when pushing their agenda

2017-10-26 21:32:46 UTC  

because I want to help... but I only want to help people that understand and know that it's me helping them, and they know me.

2017-10-26 21:33:00 UTC  

I don't want to help the faceless herd get fat and then pay for their diabeetus medication

2017-10-26 21:33:00 UTC  

now, be fair
there are enslaved goyim socialists too )))

2017-10-26 21:33:10 UTC  

yeah, that works because at the end of the day we are still individuals and have clear property lines. But when you have communal ownership then people become more concerned that they are getting their share.

2017-10-26 21:33:25 UTC  

yes

2017-10-26 21:33:29 UTC  

yeah that's why communal ownership doesn't work

2017-10-26 21:33:35 UTC  

because it gives rise to disputes

2017-10-26 21:33:40 UTC  

"tragedy of the commons"

2017-10-26 21:33:51 UTC  

the incentive is to abuse the resource

2017-10-26 21:34:20 UTC  

but if the property is owned, you could arrange an economic trade with the owner, even if it isn't with money