that sounds like the best idea to me

or DNR land

I have nothing agains other people participating in that kind of system, but personally I have no interest in getting involved in something like that. I like having my own land

you can have your own land the issue with that is that who will produce who would want to take away fro their land to lets say build a greenhouse for everyone...who will put the community barn on their property or will you have to build a barn for everyone

I will have my own land, it will not be shared. Though having agreements between fellow men in the community about keeping our land looking nice, that's fine. But it will be us that keeps our land looking good.

@thatdudeiscool brings up a good point

it's better and easier if we have a few shared resources and buildings

so we will not have a central power station that will most cost effectively provide it will be individualized

In a rural community, it might just be better to set up your own individual power supply

how do other farmers and homesteaders do it these days?

what we really need is a single wealthy dude to buy up around a hundred or so acres, and then parcel out lots for people who want to buy them

well a farmer wont sell their tilled acreage...its the only part that generates a product so it is off limits otherwise you have no farm no matter how many descendants may take it over one day and wish to divide it

and then parts of the land could have communal buildings or resources

im sure there are normal, legal ways to purchase multiple lots from a single seller

yeah but isn't that functionally the same thing?

yeah, the funny thing with the collective ownership being most effective thing is that it's literally always failed

yeah it never works

and lefty communes try it over and over again

@Orlunu a farm can exist a a family for hundreds of years without a clear beneficiary and its still technically shared or collectivized land to the family

yeah but there's always a sole owner, or it can be held in a trust

though I don't know a whole lot about the legal mumbo jumbo with that

missing some important word early on there, but family ownership and community collective ownership are very much the same thing

unless we're going to have a community patriarch in this model who makes the decisions for the "household"

so fi you cant portion off a majority of the ladn for uses like farming who will be able to farm

What?

it doesnt matter but if you do not use community funding for certain projects you will never be a community...i could jsut farm and sell it to china if it was up to me

but the community expects community treatment without the investment

none of what you're saying matches history

there have been plenty of non-communist communities

this is not a government with millions of people

again, non-sequitur

didn't say it was

i dont think you need any kind of a collective owndership to have a functioning community. There are otherways to ensure the strength of a community, such as normal personal relationships

yeah it doesn't need to be codified into rule

because small communities already operate along strong communal ties

they're functionally socialst, without being explicitly politically socialist

ehh are they?

in what way?

yeah if your neighbor needs help raising a barn

@Orchid if you can interpret charity as "socialism"

you're going to help him