Message from @thatdudeiscool

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2017-10-26 21:44:09 UTC  

because to put houses and infrastructure up takes man power

2017-10-26 21:44:29 UTC  

yeah, but im not considering farming or ranching, im considering more current world development

2017-10-26 21:44:51 UTC  

I'd like a blend of both

2017-10-26 21:45:32 UTC  

the entire idea of 'the gated community' in our new home is meant as a promise, a favorable worst case scenario, where if everything else sucks, you live in a white, managed community with a city you can commute to for work

2017-10-26 21:45:38 UTC  

to expand upon that

2017-10-26 21:45:42 UTC  

what if you had a system as i said with the cost of admission being guaranteed to you on your way out like a share...you could get a small dividend as well if proposed, but besides the point...would you be fine with physically having control on only a small part of the land instead of an equal amoubt

2017-10-26 21:46:29 UTC  

im only using farming as an example where the community would need large parts of land ...but there will be needs for large parts of land not to be directly owned by anyone in particular

2017-10-26 21:46:39 UTC  

if those brave or willing or financially secure enough to go first can enter into this sort of a deal, they gain the benefit from that extra land that their combined buying power has purchased

2017-10-26 21:47:03 UTC  

even if it's selling plots to the second wave at fair profit and splitting that benefit

2017-10-26 21:47:38 UTC  

it becomes a secondary boon to both the process of shareholding in the LLC and being a first wave

2017-10-26 21:48:38 UTC  

im 100% against these agrarian handshake deals, because in my mind, the first land that we buy is the future homesites for the community at large, and i dont want to chase your pigs off my front lawn

2017-10-26 21:48:50 UTC  

i spoke with my friend in finance and we worked out something like a 25k admission cost with 500 a week draw down on that amount and that would get you basic shelter and food for a year until the money would be fully invested in the community and you would recieve permanent basic housing for life

2017-10-26 21:49:36 UTC  

thats the basic business principles of my idea...strange i know....it could work and is a simple starting point

2017-10-26 21:50:04 UTC  

yeah, that sounds interesting, but pretty far outside of the scope of what we've discussed for this project so far

2017-10-26 21:50:08 UTC  

I love that you're thinking that through

2017-10-26 21:50:17 UTC  

no seriously... it's a novel idea

2017-10-26 21:50:29 UTC  

I would never have come up with that

2017-10-26 21:50:41 UTC  

its weird

2017-10-26 21:50:47 UTC  

my worry is that my ideas are just inaccessible to the average person

2017-10-26 21:50:56 UTC  

granted if you were to end up say, buying ranching land on the outer limits of the township, that sounds like an old school apprenticeship buy-in

2017-10-26 21:50:57 UTC  

i mean its totally different from current sustem

2017-10-26 21:51:08 UTC  

that's fine

2017-10-26 21:51:16 UTC  

yeah i would say the same about the aprenticeship buy in

2017-10-26 21:51:19 UTC  

as long as the terms are well defined and property rights are respected

2017-10-26 21:51:39 UTC  

i dislike the idea of permanent anything in that sense though

2017-10-26 21:51:39 UTC  

and people have a future on the land, where they have opportunities to be economically productive and independent

2017-10-26 21:51:54 UTC  

sounds a lot like the rent control issues that high pop places end up with

2017-10-26 21:52:54 UTC  

like, check this out

2017-10-26 21:53:19 UTC  

if we had more money

2017-10-26 21:53:27 UTC  

i do like the idea of kind of reverse mortgaging yourself for a period though, pay in, get x number of years of room, board and a chance to work, and at the end of your contract, a payout based on investments

2017-10-26 21:54:08 UTC  

we could use the labor up front

2017-10-26 21:54:14 UTC  

to develop the land

2017-10-26 21:54:30 UTC  

well ok with your point to having a problem with permanency..if you are a member of the community contributing and following the rules why should you have to keep paying or expect a payout at the end

2017-10-26 21:54:39 UTC  

yeah but you cant guarentee the labor, or its quality

2017-10-26 21:54:45 UTC  

which is why i do like the buy in

2017-10-26 21:54:51 UTC  

yeah

2017-10-26 21:54:58 UTC  

worst case, you get a neet that you feed for however long the contract is

2017-10-26 21:55:35 UTC  

haha neets gotta work for that electric

2017-10-26 21:55:37 UTC  

it seems with projects like this you always get one or two really butthurt people