this is the same altruistic impulse socialists and jews (i repeat myself) exploit when pushing their agenda

because I want to help... but I only want to help people that understand and know that it's me helping them, and they know me.

I don't want to help the faceless herd get fat and then pay for their diabeetus medication

now, be fair
there are enslaved goyim socialists too )))

yeah, that works because at the end of the day we are still individuals and have clear property lines. But when you have communal ownership then people become more concerned that they are getting their share.

yes

yeah that's why communal ownership doesn't work

because it gives rise to disputes

"tragedy of the commons"

the incentive is to abuse the resource

but if the property is owned, you could arrange an economic trade with the owner, even if it isn't with money

"hey can I farm your land if I cut you in on the profits I make?"

"hell yes!"

"if you let me graze cattle on your land I could help you build that guest house you've been meaning to "

stuff like that, etc.

I suspect that the European empathy that made democracy work rose out of our individualism.

think about the kind of abstract thought, planning and coordination it takes to survive a pleistocene winter.

and to survive all the winters over millenia

I think we're capable of compassion, empathy, and communal cooperation without it having to be legally formalized

you wont like this but it could easily end up like the roman fire department that would light your house on fire and then buy it from you for pennies....im not saying light the others house on fire but if you come from a position of power like im the only one here who has a tractor so i set the terms of farming your land i say 2 percent...you dont have any power except farming yourself or in the example of rome going to find a bucket ...it doesnt usually work out in the end...take it with a grain of salt im not trying to rustle feathers but if you just want to go and own land with white neighbors there are a lot of places you can do that and i dont know how this would benefit anyone else

no jimmies rustled

im changing my name to thatdudeiscrazy hopefully you understand

lol

conversations like this are important to have

so, the idea of 'going in' on land is something i've considered, but with a more, how to say, american bent to it

because it helps us define our expectations

So if we find flaws in some ideas, it helps us come up with better ideas, like what your were doing in the <#359510713733218324> channel with me @thatdudeiscool

if we end up with, say, a dozen family units in the first wave, and we can all put up an equal stake in a venture, that buying power is magnified, but it would be done through equal shares in an LLC or something similar

yeah that's what I'm thinking

because to put houses and infrastructure up takes man power

yeah, but im not considering farming or ranching, im considering more current world development

I'd like a blend of both

the entire idea of 'the gated community' in our new home is meant as a promise, a favorable worst case scenario, where if everything else sucks, you live in a white, managed community with a city you can commute to for work

to expand upon that

what if you had a system as i said with the cost of admission being guaranteed to you on your way out like a share...you could get a small dividend as well if proposed, but besides the point...would you be fine with physically having control on only a small part of the land instead of an equal amoubt

im only using farming as an example where the community would need large parts of land ...but there will be needs for large parts of land not to be directly owned by anyone in particular

if those brave or willing or financially secure enough to go first can enter into this sort of a deal, they gain the benefit from that extra land that their combined buying power has purchased

even if it's selling plots to the second wave at fair profit and splitting that benefit

it becomes a secondary boon to both the process of shareholding in the LLC and being a first wave

im 100% against these agrarian handshake deals, because in my mind, the first land that we buy is the future homesites for the community at large, and i dont want to chase your pigs off my front lawn

i spoke with my friend in finance and we worked out something like a 25k admission cost with 500 a week draw down on that amount and that would get you basic shelter and food for a year until the money would be fully invested in the community and you would recieve permanent basic housing for life