Message from @Marlow

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2017-10-26 20:02:07 UTC  

i build houses but why would you want log

2017-10-26 20:02:39 UTC  

everything you see in construction is due to low cost...it also lends itself to simplicity

2017-10-26 20:02:47 UTC  

people like the aestheic of it

2017-10-26 20:03:00 UTC  

I think that's what it boils down to

2017-10-26 20:03:05 UTC  

ok well i asked you why would you entertain a log home

2017-10-26 20:03:23 UTC  

I used to be into it for the aethetics and the independence of it

2017-10-26 20:03:39 UTC  

something appealing about the idea of using moslty natural materials you can source yourself

2017-10-26 20:03:52 UTC  

ok and what is unnatural about milled lumber

2017-10-26 20:04:19 UTC  

look at the floorplan of log homes and tell me it isnt a sacrifice to live in one

2017-10-26 20:04:21 UTC  

because you're totally right... modern construction methods are more cost effective, and they end up being more simple if you conform to the conventional system

2017-10-26 20:04:42 UTC  

the stick and frame, 16 inch on center, two-by system

2017-10-26 20:05:06 UTC  

though I think if I were to go that route, I'd go with the "advanced framing" technique

2017-10-26 20:05:09 UTC  

is literally the best system...most homes are nuilt like garbage doesnt mean the design is bad

2017-10-26 20:05:22 UTC  

advanced framing is a literal meme

2017-10-26 20:05:35 UTC  

lol... I'd love to hear your thoughts about it

2017-10-26 20:05:40 UTC  

you're probably way more informed than I am

2017-10-26 20:05:49 UTC  

I'm just a software developer that dreams about building his own house one day

2017-10-26 20:06:04 UTC  

im not saying theres anything wrong with a log home im just saying they turn out like cuck sheds 9 times out of ten

2017-10-26 20:06:41 UTC  

yeah you're right

2017-10-26 20:06:54 UTC  

dude I've studied almost every method on log home building

2017-10-26 20:06:55 UTC  

most are crap

2017-10-26 20:07:01 UTC  

many of them just seem stupid to me

2017-10-26 20:07:40 UTC  

the most aesthetic I've seen is probably Robert Chambers' method but it's incredibly labor intensive

2017-10-26 20:07:47 UTC  

a regular wall is lets say 6 inches thick...maybe a little bit less over the actual floor and a log home would be something like 15 inches thick...you are literally losing about 10 inches on the perimeter of the house....its probably like a 15 percent loss on the total floor plan

2017-10-26 20:07:51 UTC  

and the potential for moistrue infiltration worries me

2017-10-26 20:08:16 UTC  

yeah airsealing is super important thats why i dont like log contruction

2017-10-26 20:08:28 UTC  

yup... and the more you seal it the more it ruins the look

2017-10-26 20:08:42 UTC  

i can build a stick frame wall in maybe 45 minutes from materials i can carry in my truck and lift with one hand

2017-10-26 20:08:48 UTC  

the chambers method, you're literally carving natural logs to fit like a glove on top of each other

2017-10-26 20:09:02 UTC  

logs would be literally an order of magnitude off from that simplicity and time

2017-10-26 20:09:12 UTC  

yeah his method is really complex

2017-10-26 20:09:14 UTC  

logs also deteriorate at the same rate if im not mistaken

2017-10-26 20:09:27 UTC  

but it ends up looking like a work of art... like the trees grew together into a house

2017-10-26 20:09:42 UTC  

they do when they touch and capture water in between the nooks and crannies

2017-10-26 20:09:47 UTC  

another point against log construction

2017-10-26 20:11:22 UTC  

Sometimes I get larpy tho... and I think about what kind of house you could build if you didn't have access to all these modern materials... like if it's just the individual craftsmen in the village working on it

2017-10-26 20:11:23 UTC  

if you really love wood and trees i dont believe in cutting a ton of them down for a house ...i dont really know about log construction at all but new methods are so easy and sustainable and habitable it makes me proud of my ignorance

2017-10-26 20:11:44 UTC  

and there's also the aesthetics of it

2017-10-26 20:11:53 UTC  

that's why my preferred system is timber frame

2017-10-26 20:11:58 UTC  

aesthetics to me really arent a virtue

2017-10-26 20:12:17 UTC  

but you cant build timber frame with out SIPS and they arent local made