look at the floorplan of log homes and tell me it isnt a sacrifice to live in one

because you're totally right... modern construction methods are more cost effective, and they end up being more simple if you conform to the conventional system

the stick and frame, 16 inch on center, two-by system

though I think if I were to go that route, I'd go with the "advanced framing" technique

is literally the best system...most homes are nuilt like garbage doesnt mean the design is bad

advanced framing is a literal meme

lol... I'd love to hear your thoughts about it

you're probably way more informed than I am

I'm just a software developer that dreams about building his own house one day

im not saying theres anything wrong with a log home im just saying they turn out like cuck sheds 9 times out of ten

yeah you're right

dude I've studied almost every method on log home building

most are crap

many of them just seem stupid to me

the most aesthetic I've seen is probably Robert Chambers' method but it's incredibly labor intensive

a regular wall is lets say 6 inches thick...maybe a little bit less over the actual floor and a log home would be something like 15 inches thick...you are literally losing about 10 inches on the perimeter of the house....its probably like a 15 percent loss on the total floor plan

and the potential for moistrue infiltration worries me

yeah airsealing is super important thats why i dont like log contruction

yup... and the more you seal it the more it ruins the look

i can build a stick frame wall in maybe 45 minutes from materials i can carry in my truck and lift with one hand

the chambers method, you're literally carving natural logs to fit like a glove on top of each other

logs would be literally an order of magnitude off from that simplicity and time

yeah his method is really complex

logs also deteriorate at the same rate if im not mistaken

but it ends up looking like a work of art... like the trees grew together into a house

they do when they touch and capture water in between the nooks and crannies

another point against log construction

Sometimes I get larpy tho... and I think about what kind of house you could build if you didn't have access to all these modern materials... like if it's just the individual craftsmen in the village working on it

if you really love wood and trees i dont believe in cutting a ton of them down for a house ...i dont really know about log construction at all but new methods are so easy and sustainable and habitable it makes me proud of my ignorance

and there's also the aesthetics of it

that's why my preferred system is timber frame

aesthetics to me really arent a virtue

but you cant build timber frame with out SIPS and they arent local made

well then it's just a question of what you value

I've been researching how one might be able to build it without sips

it can be done

our ancestors did it for hundreds of years

we have better methods and materials for the in-fill these days

yeah exactly i value practicality...a stick frame your children could build at 15 ...a log home well maybe after a decades of learning they could pull one off half assed

and lime plaster and lath is more labor intensive, but it produces beautiful, durable results

any surface finish wont matter if its not airsealed etc. plaster can turn to shit really fast