Message from @Marlow

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2017-10-26 19:07:30 UTC  

@Orchid where do we discuss home building techniques and ideas? Is this the place?

2017-10-26 19:07:41 UTC  

yes

2017-10-26 19:09:35 UTC  

I've been really interested in this topic lately. Who else is interested in it? How do people here feel about ancient or classical building methods (timber and log) vs more modern (using OSB and vapor barriers, etc.)

2017-10-26 19:16:56 UTC  

im curious wether log buildings have any advantages over modern methods

2017-10-26 19:17:02 UTC  

I have some ideas for natural building. Modern techniqeus don't appeal to me

2017-10-26 19:17:11 UTC  

I've studied this quite a bit... it depends on how you configure the logs

2017-10-26 19:17:53 UTC  

the main problem with logs is how it traps mosture between logs, so it's better to design them in a way where the logs aren't touching, and you put chinking in between...

2017-10-26 19:18:46 UTC  

log homes, the way they're currently being built, require a lot of maintenance and upkeep, and aren't quite as efficient. I was enamored by them for a long time, until I discovered timber framing

2017-10-26 19:23:32 UTC  

that is a really good channel

2017-10-26 19:50:23 UTC  

yeah he does great stuff

2017-10-26 19:50:39 UTC  

if I were to build a log home, I'd be using his methods

2017-10-26 20:02:07 UTC  

i build houses but why would you want log

2017-10-26 20:02:39 UTC  

everything you see in construction is due to low cost...it also lends itself to simplicity

2017-10-26 20:02:47 UTC  

people like the aestheic of it

2017-10-26 20:03:00 UTC  

I think that's what it boils down to

2017-10-26 20:03:05 UTC  

ok well i asked you why would you entertain a log home

2017-10-26 20:03:23 UTC  

I used to be into it for the aethetics and the independence of it

2017-10-26 20:03:39 UTC  

something appealing about the idea of using moslty natural materials you can source yourself

2017-10-26 20:03:52 UTC  

ok and what is unnatural about milled lumber

2017-10-26 20:04:19 UTC  

look at the floorplan of log homes and tell me it isnt a sacrifice to live in one

2017-10-26 20:04:21 UTC  

because you're totally right... modern construction methods are more cost effective, and they end up being more simple if you conform to the conventional system

2017-10-26 20:04:42 UTC  

the stick and frame, 16 inch on center, two-by system

2017-10-26 20:05:06 UTC  

though I think if I were to go that route, I'd go with the "advanced framing" technique

2017-10-26 20:05:09 UTC  

is literally the best system...most homes are nuilt like garbage doesnt mean the design is bad

2017-10-26 20:05:22 UTC  

advanced framing is a literal meme

2017-10-26 20:05:35 UTC  

lol... I'd love to hear your thoughts about it

2017-10-26 20:05:40 UTC  

you're probably way more informed than I am

2017-10-26 20:05:49 UTC  

I'm just a software developer that dreams about building his own house one day

2017-10-26 20:06:04 UTC  

im not saying theres anything wrong with a log home im just saying they turn out like cuck sheds 9 times out of ten

2017-10-26 20:06:41 UTC  

yeah you're right

2017-10-26 20:06:54 UTC  

dude I've studied almost every method on log home building

2017-10-26 20:06:55 UTC  

most are crap

2017-10-26 20:07:01 UTC  

many of them just seem stupid to me

2017-10-26 20:07:40 UTC  

the most aesthetic I've seen is probably Robert Chambers' method but it's incredibly labor intensive

2017-10-26 20:07:47 UTC  

a regular wall is lets say 6 inches thick...maybe a little bit less over the actual floor and a log home would be something like 15 inches thick...you are literally losing about 10 inches on the perimeter of the house....its probably like a 15 percent loss on the total floor plan

2017-10-26 20:07:51 UTC  

and the potential for moistrue infiltration worries me

2017-10-26 20:08:16 UTC  

yeah airsealing is super important thats why i dont like log contruction

2017-10-26 20:08:28 UTC  

yup... and the more you seal it the more it ruins the look