Message from @Marlow

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2017-10-26 19:18:46 UTC  

log homes, the way they're currently being built, require a lot of maintenance and upkeep, and aren't quite as efficient. I was enamored by them for a long time, until I discovered timber framing

2017-10-26 19:23:32 UTC  

that is a really good channel

2017-10-26 19:50:23 UTC  

yeah he does great stuff

2017-10-26 19:50:39 UTC  

if I were to build a log home, I'd be using his methods

2017-10-26 20:02:07 UTC  

i build houses but why would you want log

2017-10-26 20:02:39 UTC  

everything you see in construction is due to low cost...it also lends itself to simplicity

2017-10-26 20:02:47 UTC  

people like the aestheic of it

2017-10-26 20:03:00 UTC  

I think that's what it boils down to

2017-10-26 20:03:05 UTC  

ok well i asked you why would you entertain a log home

2017-10-26 20:03:23 UTC  

I used to be into it for the aethetics and the independence of it

2017-10-26 20:03:39 UTC  

something appealing about the idea of using moslty natural materials you can source yourself

2017-10-26 20:03:52 UTC  

ok and what is unnatural about milled lumber

2017-10-26 20:04:19 UTC  

look at the floorplan of log homes and tell me it isnt a sacrifice to live in one

2017-10-26 20:04:21 UTC  

because you're totally right... modern construction methods are more cost effective, and they end up being more simple if you conform to the conventional system

2017-10-26 20:04:42 UTC  

the stick and frame, 16 inch on center, two-by system

2017-10-26 20:05:06 UTC  

though I think if I were to go that route, I'd go with the "advanced framing" technique

2017-10-26 20:05:09 UTC  

is literally the best system...most homes are nuilt like garbage doesnt mean the design is bad

2017-10-26 20:05:22 UTC  

advanced framing is a literal meme

2017-10-26 20:05:35 UTC  

lol... I'd love to hear your thoughts about it

2017-10-26 20:05:40 UTC  

you're probably way more informed than I am

2017-10-26 20:05:49 UTC  

I'm just a software developer that dreams about building his own house one day

2017-10-26 20:06:04 UTC  

im not saying theres anything wrong with a log home im just saying they turn out like cuck sheds 9 times out of ten

2017-10-26 20:06:41 UTC  

yeah you're right

2017-10-26 20:06:54 UTC  

dude I've studied almost every method on log home building

2017-10-26 20:06:55 UTC  

most are crap

2017-10-26 20:07:01 UTC  

many of them just seem stupid to me

2017-10-26 20:07:40 UTC  

the most aesthetic I've seen is probably Robert Chambers' method but it's incredibly labor intensive

2017-10-26 20:07:47 UTC  

a regular wall is lets say 6 inches thick...maybe a little bit less over the actual floor and a log home would be something like 15 inches thick...you are literally losing about 10 inches on the perimeter of the house....its probably like a 15 percent loss on the total floor plan

2017-10-26 20:07:51 UTC  

and the potential for moistrue infiltration worries me

2017-10-26 20:08:16 UTC  

yeah airsealing is super important thats why i dont like log contruction

2017-10-26 20:08:28 UTC  

yup... and the more you seal it the more it ruins the look

2017-10-26 20:08:42 UTC  

i can build a stick frame wall in maybe 45 minutes from materials i can carry in my truck and lift with one hand

2017-10-26 20:08:48 UTC  

the chambers method, you're literally carving natural logs to fit like a glove on top of each other

2017-10-26 20:09:02 UTC  

logs would be literally an order of magnitude off from that simplicity and time

2017-10-26 20:09:12 UTC  

yeah his method is really complex

2017-10-26 20:09:14 UTC  

logs also deteriorate at the same rate if im not mistaken

2017-10-26 20:09:27 UTC  

but it ends up looking like a work of art... like the trees grew together into a house

2017-10-26 20:09:42 UTC  

they do when they touch and capture water in between the nooks and crannies

2017-10-26 20:09:47 UTC  

another point against log construction