Message from @MKUltra

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2017-09-22 00:36:11 UTC  

@K_Wagner Wool has lanolin that makes it waterproof. the reason wool clothes get wet is because we remove it when we clean wool.

2017-09-22 00:36:12 UTC  

And like Nix said, wool doesn't absorb water like cotton or other materials.

2017-09-22 00:36:15 UTC  

Wool isn't cheap to make. Using it for insulation isn't the first place you want to put it.

2017-09-22 00:36:26 UTC  

There's a reason almost every army in the world at one time issued Wool jackets to their soldiers.

2017-09-22 00:36:52 UTC  

@MKUltra agreed, it's still better used for clothing than insulation

2017-09-22 00:36:53 UTC  

Flame resistant. And no, water filters are better with sand and charcoal. Wool is much better in socks and heavy costs, especially in PNW.

2017-09-22 00:37:05 UTC  


2017-09-22 00:37:17 UTC  

coats* stupid autocorrect

2017-09-22 00:37:26 UTC  

Straw would make a better insulator, though you need to change it from time to time to avoid mildew.

2017-09-22 00:37:29 UTC  

Like thatch roofs.

2017-09-22 00:38:06 UTC  

Honestly, snow is its own insulator.

2017-09-22 00:39:10 UTC  

Not to mention the houses should be sturdy to begin with. If you absolutely must have insulation, straw or pine needles work, or shredded bark.

2017-09-22 00:39:43 UTC  

Really though, the best insulation is a well-made house. At least as far as I understand.

2017-09-22 00:39:53 UTC  

the really nice thing about sheep and goats is that it's easy to downsize is feeding them becomes a problem. You can kill a few and still have herd. the same can't be said for cows.

2017-09-22 00:40:42 UTC  


2017-09-22 00:41:32 UTC  

Well, the house itself acts as a barrier from the ice and snow. Thick walls make it harder for the outside cold to get in. Insulation helps actually keep the heat in, better insulation, less wood or propane you have to burn to heat the house.

2017-09-22 00:42:07 UTC  

@dmac100 agreed, and you can raise many more sheep and goats per acre than cows.

2017-09-22 00:42:20 UTC  

For starters, animals smaller than bovine would be a good idea.

2017-09-22 00:43:13 UTC  

@Mitere the first few "houses" will be log cabins, so mud in between the logs will probably be our insulation.

2017-09-22 00:43:46 UTC  

That will increase rot and pests.

2017-09-22 00:43:56 UTC  

Pitch could be used.

2017-09-22 00:44:08 UTC  

But that increases fires. Used throughout history.

2017-09-22 00:44:33 UTC  

We could use pine tar.

2017-09-22 00:44:46 UTC  


2017-09-22 00:46:19 UTC  

There are flame resistant chemicals that can be sprayed or painted on.

2017-09-22 00:49:18 UTC  

These are temporary house for people to sleep in while they build better ones. The plan so far is that a few guys go out next april to start clearing land and grow food.

2017-09-22 00:52:17 UTC  

We shouldnt have date plans right now

2017-09-22 00:53:59 UTC  

But next April should be fine I guess

2017-09-22 00:54:51 UTC  

@Ghostler I agree. However, moving to the PNW in the winter isn't possible and summer is too late to get any food grown.

2017-09-22 01:00:49 UTC  

Not to be a damper on our agrarian zeal, but if we are mainly focused on building housing the first summer it is understandable if we do not get any farming done. We can live off canned stuff and stored provisions until we can crops up and running.

2017-09-22 01:02:36 UTC  

@K_Wagner it's 2 weeks to get everything planted then the occansional watering and weeding. plus if a few people go then they can work in two groups.

2017-09-22 14:39:11 UTC  


2017-09-22 14:39:48 UTC  

of course the first things we should plant should be hearty vegetables and maybe fruits

2017-09-22 14:39:59 UTC  

potatoes, corn, etc

2017-09-22 15:02:16 UTC  

@ram3n it really depends on the place we go to. Root vegetables like potatos or carrots don't do well with waterlogged soil. As far as fruits I think we should focus on fruit trees that are true to seed. Those would include apricots, peaches, some plums and sour cherries. All of these trees are self fruitful and true to seed. Later we can focus on pomme fruits like pears and apples. We should also look into nut trees. Walnuts, hickory nuts, hazelnuts and chestnuts should all be possible.

2017-09-22 15:30:34 UTC  


2017-09-22 19:29:42 UTC  

It's interesting to see the professional versions of these as opposed to "yeah just pull the leg here and cut here and boom got yourself a pigeon"