Not at all.

However

Also doctors and dentists dont just grow on trees

i want high speed internet and running water

and heated floors

We need to discuss the possibility of a soft collapse of services

And what exactly /is/ the end game here?

Not saying that we need to completely disconnect. Just want to cover our bases

find a white town geographically near a city that will support jobs, move there, extablish a community

in brief, at least

Self sufficiency is something that will be necesarry in the long run. Call me a conspiracy theorist, or a larper or whatever you'd like. But, society and the United States are not sustainable as they are now. Both of those things will either face gigantic change or death within the next 100 years.

ok, sure, i can support the idea that the US may drastically change in the next century

id like to get home base sorted out before i start building the walls for our free city, if you catch my drift

Yeah, I can get with that.

the longer version of the above is to seek out a township, ideally of less than 5k that is 95%+ white according to the census, with the initial group buying land there to establish a foothold there

if we can buy land within that town's city limits and develop it ourselves, we can have a gated community that we decide the make-up of

that is also much more enticing to those on the fence about moving instead of 'eh, just uproot your life and live out of a shipping container'

I haven't been active, so I'm sure if this has been touched on yet. But the infiltration of a small towns city council level of politics would be a decent start.

thats why we want to focus on a small township

200 new voters in an area that small can swing local elections if they are quiet about it

the larger city is to support us as well, because a town that small isnt going to support doctors, lawyers, skilled tradesmen etc

we can commute to 'the outside world' make our money, and come home to paradise

Plus, if you think about it. Who ever really pays attention to city level politics? How many people can name their city council members? Yet these people (at least in my town) are able to do things such as bar huge companies from entering the area to allow for our local ISP to have a monopoly.

yep

city level civil servants can literally keep walmart and starbucks out of a city

so yeah, thats the idea

Realistically, that shouldn't be so tough.

heres the rub tho; none of you fuckers is dragging a shipping container up next to my dream house, so start saving, nerds

Keep in the farmers and tradesmen, keep out the big companies.

if we're at the point where we are in city government, it really just becomes about doing literally what's best for the town, which is almost always in line with our way of thinking anyway

be conservative, don't sell tomorrow for a pay day today, etc

create jobs, keep the gibs as low as possible

You might want to explore options like permaculture instead of standard farming.

be tough on crime

ive watched and read enough of joel salatin to last me a good long while

also most of the stuff jm fortier has put out

If you really wanted to get into it, you could "hire" a private security company (perhaps one owned by one of us) instead of a police force much like that one town.

a buddy of mine lives like 2 hours from polyface, i keep saying im going to take a vacation up there and do the tour

the town's police answer to the mayor, the mayor answers to pressure from the council and his voters

ive never met a cop that didnt like to be able to do his job

But a police force is obligated to comply with the federal government (such as FBI investigations.)