so the tilt is a not necessary. it can't be measured. it was constructed to explain away some phenomena. such as seasons

but there is an alternate explanation based on a flat earth model

I will admit there is one.

there is one what?

Another explanation for the seasons based on the flat earth model.

ah ok. good. so if you picture the sun making a circle over a flat earth

It doesn't do that bad of a job explaining it. I have seen the models

it makes a path closer to the north pole in summer and farther away in winter.

ah ok. sounds like you are familiar with it then

Yes, I have tried to look into things before disagreeing with them

However the seasons part I have nothing to agree no disagree on, for It is something that explains the seasons in a way that works.

that's good. the key to being a truth seeker is first humility. never assume you have the answer and second to be open to all ideas and not judge until after investigation

Of course

cool. then sounds like your biggest issue is.....gravity?

Gravity is one of my main ones yes.

ah ok. so...."Gravity" is difficult because we still don't understand it. in fact that was one of my first shockers when I started college

physics prof said "we still don't understand gravity"

I remember like yesterday....was 25yrs ago

we don't truly know what causes things to fall down. mass attracting mass has never been proven

and we can't replicate gravity

nor tune it like we can say with EM

but...

if we assume for a moment that mass attracts mass...it could be exaplanable on a flat earth model

bcs we only can measure/observe that the surface of earth is flat.

no clue what's underneath

and we've only been able to drill about 8 miles

so it's entirely possible that variations in "weight" if ever measured in different locations, could be attributed to different center of mass in that region

we don't truly know what is under the surface

That's a very interesting way to look at things

one could imagine, as a possibly silly example, regions/pockets of high density material scattered throughout the "crust" or "mantle" that causes differential gravitational "force" depending on location

just as a thought expt....

the last key to being a truthseeker is "holding ambiguity"

that is...being comfortable not having solid answers to all the questions.

that can be difficult...esp for scientists

Well, honestly, this more "silly" example still comes closer to explaining things on a flat earth then most hypothesis I have heard. I'll keep it in mind

🙂

I can admit that not holding all the answers can be hard, but I try my best not to fall into that trap

trust me...I have lots of questions that I don't have satisfactory answers to. But give me one year of NASAs budget (circa $20 Billion) and I guarantee I can create an R&D program to answer them...

good for you!!

that's what blocks most people in my experience

you have to be honest and say "I don't know" but I won't let that stop my pursuit