also marxists aren't always against marriage

marx himself had a wife

communism is a stateless, classless moneyless society

he also cheated on her with his maid that Engels then adopted bastard child

well the marxist definition of the state is somewhat different to what is generally meant

also whats this agbout cheating

bro, please

source?

literally just look "marx, maid child"

```On June 23, 1851 Helene Demuth gave birth to a boy, Henry Frederick Demuth, the birth certificate leaving the name of the father blank.[2] Most scholars accept that the child had been sired by Karl Marx,[3] a view that reflects surviving correspondence from the Marx family and their wider circle, as well as the fact that Marx's wife had been on a trip abroad nine months prior to the birth.[2]```

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helene_Demuth

>most scholars accept

dont be a conspiracy tard

is there any actual proof though

that he was the father

i dont know, maybe the facts that who else fucked her and while engles would be trying so hard to pretend that isnt wasnt marx

but hell, there seems to be pretty popular that even Marx's wife slept around on him

` The child's paternity however remains a subject of discussion, with the academic Terrell Carver stating that, although it has been claimed since 1962 that Marx was the father, "this is not well founded on the documentary materials available", adding that "the gossip" is not supported by "direct evidence that bears unambiguously on this matter" `

we'll never know if he was or not

so in other words "they didnt have dna at the time so stop talking shit and making reasonable assumptions based on the body of evidence available."

its possible i suppose

doesn't make much difference

throws the whole Marx respected marriage thing out of the window

Marx was a deadbeat father and had to beg Engles for money so his daughter wouldnt complain so much about work

I don't really care about Marx's personal family relations

then dont bring it up and just accept the fact he was a degenerate and move on

>degenerate
a subjective view

the fact of the matter is that Engles, the second founding father of Marxism saw marriage as unjustified hierarchy

the thing about marxism is democratizing the means of production

why?

what earns someone to vote?

them being there of course

can you ask the question more clearly im not sure what you're trying to ask

its rhetorical question

basically im pointing out that Marxism is contingent upon a supposed end of economic and social development that leads to the goal of removing all barriers to entry for goods and services

thats always what it was and what it will be

well it is a lot of things

the destruction of all social responsibilities to have access to sustenance

Marxism is very broad

there are generally 3 parts of marxism:

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