maybe some will disagree with my method but meh. dude... thats what 3ish months??? you barely know her

and honestly, you are 23... you barely know yourself

The best solution is to keep talking about it, and not try to bury it deeper

Otherwise you won't figure out what's the extent of the need, and what it's about

@Noctah I've never thought I deserved love so when she had sex with me and said everything she's said it really made me feel fulfilled. I never deserved happiness on that level and she met that. It's all illusory but it was more real to me than anything.

@reagoge You find it by first developing your self-love, think about it. how can you expect someone else to really "love" or be intimate with you when you are so hungry for love that you need to seek it out externally?

sex != love

@God Emperor Jigaboo You're right. I have already cut her down a lot and I am visiting one more time until the new year but I will probably just slowly ghost. I need to just digest all this and calm the fuck down.

True.

I know sex isn't love but it's a good manifestation of intimacy.

hell maybe cutting her out completely isnt needed but monogamy with her is a bad road to go down from what you shared

friends/FWB THATS IT

Ok one secnd

I never will do monogamy with her, live with her, have kids with her or marry her

Those are out for all women.

Period.

However, I did want to try dating her and see if I could learn.

you gotta get "icy", dont let a bitch get in your head/sway your emotions like this one is doing

It's mostly to see what mgtow/red pill talks about. I need to practice and apply these lessons to truly get it otherwise I will be an idiot.

How do I get more icy?

Hey have any of you guys tried Harry's razors?

I wosh i ghosted the girl i was with before she moved to New York and i lost her before i was ready to let her go. Shit's rough dude. I can feel how much i miss her in my stomach. She was a good girl and now she's to far for me to touch. I'm red pilled i just fucked up and got attached to her

@reagoge Give it time, be open to new experiences, and hopefully things will balance out

@𓅂 𝔗𝔥𝔢𝔏𝔞𝔰𝔱𝔊𝔬𝔡𝔎𝔦𝔫𝔤𓅂 I am not red pill at all yet but that's rough man.

I wish this girl would just reject me.

It would be easier.

It's not a great graph but the middle line is the "ideal" one

@Noctah Awww thank you 😄 You made that for me?

It's accurate

@reagoge Yeah

It's easier to illustrate

Thank you

I don't really have a support network so not having anyone to talk to just magnifies the pain. I'm done with girls. I can't go through this again

Well, it helps to stop touching the stove.

But not everyone can stop right away

@𓅂 𝔗𝔥𝔢𝔏𝔞𝔰𝔱𝔊𝔬𝔡𝔎𝔦𝔫𝔤𓅂 Yeah, I am a dumbass. I don't want to cut the pain off. I need to feel every ounce of it and just learn.

-stop giving her control over your thoughts and focus, start proactively changing your mental focus when you catch your mind wander back to her
-care more about how you think/view yourself than her or any one else
-practice not holding on too heavily to the words/actions she sends your way... or any other woman.
-please go listen to the Cult of Black Phillip (aka Patrice Oneal) on youtube, this guy will change your life

So it is best to break the conditioning that playing with the stove.

@LPA FreeNeko (Hermit's Youth)🇺🇸 Yeah I believe if he tries to go full monk as he is right now he'll just be repressing his desires and not confronting his issues

4 things for a start

I just started. I need at least a year or two of torment - barring STI/pregnancy/marriage/false accusations. I will not break rules for those.