Message from @Ondsinet
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I always have regarded The Prince as one of the most dangerous works which were spread in the world; it is a book which falls naturally into the hands of princes, and of those who have a taste for policy. It is all too easy for an ambitious young man, whose heart and judgement are not formed enough to accurately distinguish good from bad, to be corrupted by maxims which inflame his hunger for power. If it is bad to debase the innocence of a private individual, whose influence on the affairs of the world is minimal, it is much more to pervert some prince who must control his people, administer justice, and set an example for their subjects; and must, by their kindness, magnanimity and mercy, be someone to be looked up to. The floods which devastate regions, the fire of the lightning which reduces cities to ashes, the poison of the plague which afflicts provinces, are not as disastrous in the world as the dangerous morals and unrestrained passions of the kings: the celestial plagues last only for a time, they devastate only some regions, and these losses, though painful, are repaired. But the crimes of the kings are suffered, for a much longer time, by the whole people. The kings have the capacity to do good when they have the will. In the same way they can also make evil. The lives of the people are sometimes pitiable, and they have very good reason to fear abuse of the sovereign power, when their goods are in prey when the prince's avarice asserts itself. Their freedom is at the mercy of his whims; their peace and security are vulnerable to his ambition and perfidy; and their very lives are subject to his cruelties! Machiavel's advice, if followed uncritically by a prince, may lead to real tragedies in the real world.
yes
I just copied and pasted parts of the Anti- machievel by Frederick The Great🤷
@Duke of Mecklenburg Tbh, I doubt a literal prince would be swayed or introduced to their power via that work
They'd probably read it and throw it out as trash
The prince was read by many rulers for hundreds of years
Yes, But so are a lot of other books
Some good, some mediocre
Machiavelli had a huge impact on rulers around Europe @Fitzydog
Frederick the great was the first monarch to really question it
200 years after it came out
He layed out the principal's of how a monarch should lead without being a douche/power hungry dictator...He had absolute power, yet had some of the freest subjects in Europe
Yes tell that to the poles
Jesus
Machiavelli
The Corrupted Aryan Mysteries And History
http://esotericawakening.com/the-corrupted-aryan-mysteries
It's so refreshing to find out an idea you've had for a while and thought you were crazy for having was actually coined centuries ago by a philosopher.
Just found out about Hegel's view of history as a dialectic
It that the mask that hides a crazy person is slipping more and more as she gets backed into a corner by her opponents
Lul France and their 1 tine
The *what* championship?!
Half the men, over 10 times the kill count
Jesus hell
That's frederick for you
😂 🤷
He faked a retreat to pull the French into a valley were hes Artillery obliterated the French, reformed his line infantrymen and smashed the disorganized French army, since the French were trying to chase what they thought was a retreating army
I KNEW that was a valid troop orginazion
maybe I should actually look this stuff up
Works in total war
I'll have to try it then. Total War doesn't usually respond well to historic strategies
what do you mean "throwing more men at it" isn't a real strategey????
Frederick was always severely outnumbered, so the oblique attack only really worked for him, due to Prussian discipline...He had the most disciplined well trained army on the planet, that would hold formation and reload there muskets faster than the opposition
So most of his line would be much thinner and weaker then the enemies, and he had to rely on his soldiers standing there ground and not routing against insane odds, as his superior drill and officers coordinated quick maneuvers...Frederick relyed on discipline and out maneuvering his enemies...So he could push a large chunk of his army into the left flank of the Austrians or French, and break them, while maintaining a thin line holding on for dear life in the center and right