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talk about political control aspect of Socialism, try to hide behind economics... fuck off noob

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@StevenStevens Ok faggot, why the fuck are you back here after nearly a year of inactivity?

Motte and Bailey of Marxists is always to hide behind "means of production" as if that's the only thing advocated by Neo-Marxism.

Ok, lets supposed i'm wrong. What is socialism and how is the EU socialist?

@galesteppes As i said before i wanted to talk to some people that dislike the EU, because i wanted to understand why someone would dislike it.

Because centralization is the BIG GAY

well it seems that you are physically incapable of understanding

I can understand "German poo poo head", but that is not a very good reason now is it.

Also to make it clear, i'm not a socialist or marxist

Centralisation of
- tax law
- defence procurement
- defence policy
- immigration control
- border control
...and that's just for starters - Maastricht Treaty opened the door for EU dictatorship, then Lisbon Treaty showed the way... and that way is Socialist.

So let's see if i understand it, centralisation is socialism? or centralisation of certain *things*

EU current policy is to systematically remove sovereignty of its member states and hand that power to the EU.

@StevenStevens Here's an actual question:

What's your opinion on the sovereignty and self determination of localities and individuals?

Does a centralized government have the *right* to determine what individuals who live elsewhere can do?

In general i'm favour of the maximization of liberty, with some corrections to inherent systemic bias.

For example?

Racism.

How do you 'correct' for natural OPINIONS that people have?

You make so an employer can't openly descriminate against individuals due to their skin colour

Why can't they?

Because that is racist.

So?

And i don't like it

Oh, so secret racism is fine... jeez

Don't go to that business

yeah, redistribution of wealth doesn't sound socialist at all, LOL

I believe the business owner being punished for racist behaviour is more desirable than you being unable to go there due to your skin colour or nationality

I disagree

Good for you.

Go somewhere else...?

That person of color has no right to go to that business

That's a voluntary interaction

This sounds like American logic

Rights are an illusion, your rights are granted by whoever holds the monopoly on force buddy