but that won't get you very far

So yeet the government

The government can kiss my ass

Problem solved

I am born with rights fuck off

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See? This entire argument is evidence that Liberalism is dead

Liberalism with a capital L?

If no one is born with rights, then who gave the governement the right to create and enforce laws <:think_woke:378717098681171988>

Liberalism as in English Liberalism

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@-5K- Might makes right.

Billy isn't liberal

he's a statist authoritarian

No, he's an authoritarian nutcase

lol

Not believing in individual rights... yikes.

billy, the state demands that you undergo sex reassignment surgery

now go do it

As i said before, i rather the government gives people freedom but i'm under no illusion of what rights and governments are

@StevenStevens That confirms @Fitzydog 's statement of ```The only rights you have are those you are willing to defend through the use of violence```

@GeorgyBoyo That's the problem with them: You have to believe in them for it to work

The state gives no freedoms

It only ensures them

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@GeorgyBoyo Get a gun, it's easier than faith in 'Rights'

@-5K- Never said that was wrong, i only advised against it.

Might makes right

Advise against what? reality?

Marxism <:ohsargon:451135765368274954>

>might makes right

I guess we're raping billy tonight then

Nazis and Commies are two cheeks of the same arse - change my mind

A people have an obligation to defend their rights against a tyrannical govt. They use force if need be. I don't see why this should be advised against considering the fact that evil regimes have done alot worse for the world than anarchy (although neither is preferable)

>If need be

It's always needed lol

Now when you can't defend your rights then yeah they are unfortunately merely illusions

Rights = responsibility = Discipline = Freedom

*The government is responsible for me* <:NPC:500042735617703967>

Sounds like weak cuck thinking