I never argue with people about immigration,I just send that

His only mistake is assuming these countries are poor because they lack the competent, energetic people.

Instead of being subjugated by warlords, dictators, rampant corruption and organized crime.

I think he meant to stress that they lacked people who were competent, energetic, *and* educated. Educated would also imply some level of wealth, which would give them more means to do what they needed.

That too, seems in a lot of places the people with all three of those boxes ticked tend to want to take over rather than improve things.

The term is brain drain

The most competent and educated leave

In turn they dont create wealth in their own country

If your country is ruled by organized crime, your brains won't do shit to fix things. It's way too easy to keep hungry and uneducated people subjugated.

And whos responsibility is to fix that?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/world/europe/pope-francis-vatican-cigarettes.html

It is sad to see that the Catholic church still hates fags

Good question, whose responsibility is it to free the North Korean population from the Kim dynasty?

And here we are now at a stallmate

If we act we get accused of nation building If not we get accused sitiing idle why others are commiting genocide

My point was, most of those countries can only be fixed by a very drastic change, like a revolution, or foreign imposition, because they have very effective systems in place to prevent gradual improvements. At least it looks like it.

I bet most of them would love to turn into South Korea or Japan.

Or it end up as Afganistan

@DanielKO DigitalSoujou and AsianBoss have some videos interviewing NK defectors

One of em brought up a point about the differences in "pressure" between SK and NK society. In NK it's clearly in a bad way, but there's greater emphasis among family members caring for what they do have. Whereas living in SK, for a young college student age guy like him, you're expected to be isolated and nose to the grindstone in your studies so in that sense he was happier in NK than SK(Though obviously plenty of reasons to enjoy SK over NK)

Well yeah, when your life consists of worshipping dear leader, finding shoes to eat for dinner, and trying not to get sent to the labor camps, of course there will bea heavy emphasis on family cohesion and support

That's like saying it's good to live under tyranny because you don't have to worry about making life choices. Because you don't have any.

That also was the general feeling under socialism here

Well yeah, when your life consists of worshipping dear leader, finding shoes to eat for dinner, and trying not to get sent to the labor camps, of course there will bea heavy emphasis on family cohesion and support

Nowadays its looked back with nostalgia. Everybody had work. Just had to go to school no hard choices to make

Being responsible for your own destiny is stressful. But also rewarding.

It's also white supremacy

hwite supremacy

Huwite

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god i fucking hate the pope

cucks to islam, cucks to commies, cucks to the EU, cucks to social justice, but god fucking forbid you stop telling africans they aren't allowed to use condoms

this is why religion needs to die, what has the church done that isnt objectively awful that makes up for being responsible for thousands of deaths annually?

there is literally nothing religion does that can't be done by secular means and with the added benefit of not requiring the death of millions

Well, it helped take us out of the quagmire of the Stone age I guess

yes but it singlehandedly caused the dark ages

we are several hundred years behind technologically because of the catholic church

to this day we're still finding books the church either banned or wrote holy text over that have mathematical formulas or scientific discoveries that were re-discovered hundreds of years later

the church has fought human progress tooth and nail, its time for them to go

"The meeting came about through a series of exchanges between Trump Jr. and a Russian publicist who knew the Trumps; that publicist suggested that Trump Jr. meet with a Russian lawyer who could provide opposition research on Hillary Clinton, damaging Hillary and helping Trump. “I love it,” Trump Jr. replied.

The meeting itself was a bust; apparently Veselnitskaya provided no opposition research on Hillary Clinton, instead making vague allegations and spending most of her time talking about the repeal of certain anti-Russian sanctions. But now Reuters reports that Veselnitskaya met with Fusion GPS on the day of the Trump Jr. meeting, both before and after the meeting — and that the file she handed to the Trump campaign was compiled by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS is, of course, the same firm that Hillary Clinton’s campaign paid inordinate sums of money to dig up anti-Trump material later compiled in the so-called Steele dossier."

Why is it that eveything that the dems accuse the reps doing is done by them too?