Message from @Reaps

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2017-12-08 15:02:36 UTC  

I was reading something unrelated to NN, yet it summed up why... or at least one of the reasons why, I am so skeptical of it

2017-12-08 15:02:57 UTC  

Many people seem to point to Australia as having a great healthcare system because of the mix between private and public

Just like the UK 👌🏿

2017-12-08 15:06:07 UTC  

thus assuming it has a good balance between 'the big three' (that you supposedly can only have two of), being affordability, quality and accessibility

2017-12-08 15:06:15 UTC  

howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrr

2017-12-08 15:06:20 UTC  

what they don't tell you

2017-12-08 15:06:44 UTC  

Is that the government has bulldozed it's way into private health insurers and how they can provide them to their own customers

2017-12-08 15:08:13 UTC  

Let me find the relevant page on the Gov's DOH website

2017-12-08 15:08:53 UTC  

a'ight.

2017-12-08 15:09:01 UTC  

"Lifetime Health Cover is a Government initiative which was introduced on 1 July 2000, and designed to encourage people to take out hospital insurance earlier in life, and to maintain their cover over their lifetime."

2017-12-08 15:09:15 UTC  

sounds good, right? Get people off of public healthcare and into the private sector, save taxpayer dollars

2017-12-08 15:10:18 UTC  

"What is Lifetime Health Cover?
Lifetime Health Cover (LHC) is a financial loading that can be payable in addition to the base rate premium for your private health insurance hospital cover."

2017-12-08 15:10:42 UTC  

But how does it compel people to get private health?

2017-12-08 15:11:17 UTC  

"How do I avoid paying an **LHC loading**?
To avoid paying a LHC loading, you need to purchase hospital cover by 1 July **following your 31st birthday**. If you purchase hospital cover **after** this date you may be required to **pay a LHC loading** – **2% for each year you are over 30**. The loading is **removed after 10 years** of continuous hospital insurance cover."

2017-12-08 15:12:15 UTC  

wait, *what*?

2017-12-08 15:12:52 UTC  

"For instance, if you **wait until you are 40**, you could be paying an **extra 20% on the cost of your hospital cover**. If you wait until you are **50**, you could pay **40% more**. And so on, up to a maximum of 70% more."

2017-12-08 15:13:08 UTC  

This is for the **next ten years**, btw

2017-12-08 15:13:21 UTC  

but what does this have to do with NN?

2017-12-08 15:14:05 UTC  

"In Australia, **private health insurance is not ‘risk-rated’ like most forms of insurance**. Private health insurers **cannot refuse to insure any person**, and **must charge everyone the same premium for the same level of cover**, despite their risk profile and **likelihood of using health services.**"

2017-12-08 15:14:10 UTC  

Look after yourself?

2017-12-08 15:14:15 UTC  

Eat healthy?

2017-12-08 15:14:18 UTC  

Sleep well?

2017-12-08 15:14:22 UTC  

Don't smoke?

2017-12-08 15:14:24 UTC  

Don't drink?

2017-12-08 15:14:29 UTC  

fuck you, pay the same as the guy who does

2017-12-08 15:14:34 UTC  

What the actual fuck?

2017-12-08 15:14:41 UTC  

That’s retarded

2017-12-08 15:14:50 UTC  

Even if the company would be willing to offer you a better, more appealing deal

2017-12-08 15:14:51 UTC  

they cannot

2017-12-08 15:15:02 UTC  

*E Q U A L I T Y*

2017-12-08 15:15:33 UTC  

Why should you charge the guy who **ABUSES** his body the same as a guy who takes care of himself?

2017-12-08 15:15:49 UTC  

Thanks @Reaps

2017-12-08 15:16:13 UTC  

That just proves liberal college students don’t know jack shit when they open their mouths here

2017-12-08 15:16:27 UTC  

MUH AUSTRALIAN HEALTHCARE

2017-12-08 15:16:37 UTC  

I suppose the argument is "what if there's only one health company that will cover you? Then they'd have a monopoly and charge whatever they want!"

2017-12-08 15:17:00 UTC  

If the government is swooping in and forcing all companies to fix their prices at a set rate, how is that any better than the monopoly?

2017-12-08 15:17:05 UTC  

So because they can’t charge the abuser more because of his risk, they just charge everybody more right ?

2017-12-08 15:17:18 UTC  

Well, that would make business sense

2017-12-08 15:17:24 UTC  

To cover the cost n shieet

2017-12-08 15:17:37 UTC  

Help pay for Peter's broken body with healthy Paul's money

2017-12-08 15:17:56 UTC  

Christ this shit sounds very Soviet