Message from @Smak64
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yes, unfortunately, there's literally zero evidence in your favor
these are _always_ fake
I don't doubt that they could be produced by actual right-wing neonazi racists, but anyone who believes that before evidence of such is presented is deluding themselves
You're saying it's SJW before we have any evidence of that either
yes, because they _always_ are, I'm saying it on the basis of historical fact
not without "any evidence"
sounds like you'd say "communism hasn't been tried, really" as well, if you don't buy that argument
Okay now that's just ad hominem here, I'm not fucking retarded
that's not an ad hominem
I'm just going by the wording of what they'll even show of the posters (they say the first one was cropped) and there's legit *nothing* white supremacist at all
If it were to be a false flag, then this is the worst false flag they've done because it doesn't give anything in their favor. There's nothing about white supremacy in it, just the narrative of white genocide from immigration and the press.
I'm not saying it couldn't be produced by bigots, I'm just saying that it's extremely unlikely
I don't think it was *bigots*
Maybe we mean different alt-right
well whatever group you want to attribute it to
I mean more the normal people, I think some call them alt-light
I'm just saying it's much more likely that it was produced by SJWs or black people
the people who got caught up in it not for the white supremacy stuff, but because they hate SJWs and want to go to the other end
I don't understand why I have to repeat my stand 4-5 times
I don't have more to say on the subject
I'm not even arguing your point now, just specifying who I mean when I say alt-right
Although I will argue one point
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sounds like you'd say "communism hasn't been tried, really" as well, if you don't buy that argument
Smak64 - Today at 7:21 AM
Okay now that's just ad hominem here, I'm not fucking retarded
folk - Today at 7:21 AM
that's not an ad hominem
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No, that is an ad hominem
If you spend five minutes looking at modern history, you see the soviet union and they were communist
Yeah no, it's been tried a lot. To believe it hasn't been tried, even if you want to go down to the "Well by the definition of communism...", it's been tried we just fucking *failed* because humans can't do that
At this point I'd think that honestly believing communism hasn't really been tried is a position stupid enough that to say someone holds it without them saying they do actually is ad hominem
Milo, Alt-Right <:what:382980756139409409>
that's why I ended up specifying to meaning the more normal people, the alt-light as some people call them (I think they call them that anyway, not sure if they do anymore)
unless those people have gotten kicked out of the alt-right by now
I guess Milo is Alt-Light but that term was invented by the Alt-Right just another label they put on people like Gavin McInnes
it's _not_ an ad hominem - I was using the absurdity of the claim to make a point, I wasn't doing it to offend you
and offense is taken, not given
if you want to assume motivation, that's fine by me, but you can't read my mind
Alt-Light is a Conservative that doesn't act in a Conservative way. <:think_literalpepe:378717098630971397>
I'm not taking offense, nor am I assuming you meant to give it, I'm saying it's a position so stupid that I'd actually say accusing someone of holding it is ad hominem
But anyhow, we're more or less back and forth on that and really all we can do with it is agree to disagree.
Lads we are going to do it
we are going to re-unite Korea
Tbh, does north korea even *have* anyone to send to the olympics?