Message from @folk

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2018-01-17 11:15:21 UTC  

I'm telling you - _always_

2018-01-17 11:15:30 UTC  
2018-01-17 11:15:49 UTC  

there's plenty of other aggregate sources, you can look at them yourself

2018-01-17 11:17:29 UTC  

My issue as to why I won't believe it's SJW who actually put it up is the screenshot of a second poster. Specifically in it it says "'Multiculturalism' & 'Diversity' are euphemisms for our genocide." I don't think an SJW is capable of enough self-awareness to realize that's the alt-right position.

2018-01-17 11:17:48 UTC  

If it were an SJW who put it up, I'd expect actual white supremacist messages because that's how they want to paint them.

2018-01-17 11:17:50 UTC  

yes, unfortunately, there's literally zero evidence in your favor

2018-01-17 11:17:56 UTC  

these are _always_ fake

2018-01-17 11:19:15 UTC  

I don't doubt that they could be produced by actual right-wing neonazi racists, but anyone who believes that before evidence of such is presented is deluding themselves

2018-01-17 11:19:35 UTC  

You're saying it's SJW before we have any evidence of that either

2018-01-17 11:19:56 UTC  

yes, because they _always_ are, I'm saying it on the basis of historical fact

2018-01-17 11:20:05 UTC  

not without "any evidence"

2018-01-17 11:20:39 UTC  

sounds like you'd say "communism hasn't been tried, really" as well, if you don't buy that argument

2018-01-17 11:21:12 UTC  

Okay now that's just ad hominem here, I'm not fucking retarded

2018-01-17 11:21:37 UTC  

that's not an ad hominem

2018-01-17 11:21:40 UTC  

I'm just going by the wording of what they'll even show of the posters (they say the first one was cropped) and there's legit *nothing* white supremacist at all

2018-01-17 11:22:59 UTC  

If it were to be a false flag, then this is the worst false flag they've done because it doesn't give anything in their favor. There's nothing about white supremacy in it, just the narrative of white genocide from immigration and the press.

2018-01-17 11:23:35 UTC  

I'm not saying it couldn't be produced by bigots, I'm just saying that it's extremely unlikely

2018-01-17 11:23:43 UTC  

I don't think it was *bigots*

2018-01-17 11:23:50 UTC  

Maybe we mean different alt-right

2018-01-17 11:23:59 UTC  

well whatever group you want to attribute it to

2018-01-17 11:24:02 UTC  

I mean more the normal people, I think some call them alt-light

2018-01-17 11:24:09 UTC  

I'm just saying it's much more likely that it was produced by SJWs or black people

2018-01-17 11:24:30 UTC  

the people who got caught up in it not for the white supremacy stuff, but because they hate SJWs and want to go to the other end

2018-01-17 11:24:42 UTC  

I don't understand why I have to repeat my stand 4-5 times

2018-01-17 11:24:48 UTC  

I don't have more to say on the subject

2018-01-17 11:24:50 UTC  

the kind of alt-right that's more Milo Yiannopolous than RIchard Spencer

2018-01-17 11:25:06 UTC  

I'm not even arguing your point now, just specifying who I mean when I say alt-right

2018-01-17 11:25:26 UTC  

Although I will argue one point

2018-01-17 11:25:48 UTC  

"
sounds like you'd say "communism hasn't been tried, really" as well, if you don't buy that argument
Smak64 - Today at 7:21 AM
Okay now that's just ad hominem here, I'm not fucking retarded
folk - Today at 7:21 AM
that's not an ad hominem
"

2018-01-17 11:25:52 UTC  

No, that is an ad hominem

2018-01-17 11:26:10 UTC  

If you spend five minutes looking at modern history, you see the soviet union and they were communist

2018-01-17 11:26:47 UTC  

Yeah no, it's been tried a lot. To believe it hasn't been tried, even if you want to go down to the "Well by the definition of communism...", it's been tried we just fucking *failed* because humans can't do that

2018-01-17 11:27:46 UTC  

At this point I'd think that honestly believing communism hasn't really been tried is a position stupid enough that to say someone holds it without them saying they do actually is ad hominem

Milo, Alt-Right <:what:382980756139409409>

2018-01-17 11:45:38 UTC  

that's why I ended up specifying to meaning the more normal people, the alt-light as some people call them (I think they call them that anyway, not sure if they do anymore)

2018-01-17 11:45:47 UTC  

unless those people have gotten kicked out of the alt-right by now

I guess Milo is Alt-Light but that term was invented by the Alt-Right just another label they put on people like Gavin McInnes

2018-01-17 11:51:43 UTC  

it's _not_ an ad hominem - I was using the absurdity of the claim to make a point, I wasn't doing it to offend you

2018-01-17 11:51:51 UTC  

and offense is taken, not given

2018-01-17 11:52:16 UTC  

if you want to assume motivation, that's fine by me, but you can't read my mind