@Bjorn - MD Agreed. It is weird the mainstream media fixated on him so much that now they think all pro-white politics is dead because he's licking his wounds.

@Nemets I am very poor.

but I came in by bus from Almaty so I saw some of the countryside. Mostly at night though. The contrast between Kazakhstan and China or China and the rest of the world boggles the mind. China is the real deal

@Logan Elaborate?

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I think they saw the size of his ego very early on, and resolved to use him against us as an optical liability.

it felt like walking off the set of Indiana Jones onto the set of Blade Runner

@Bjorn - MD Maybe someday he can have a role to play. But Not in IE and IE doesn't need him.

they were doing some knife attacks before, after and during my time there but it wasn't very disruptive. The streets were peaceful and busy with Uighurs and Han but in the city center - which is huge, it's a city of 2 million, which is bigger than most cities in the US - there were SWAT vehicles and foot patrols

It's not like he got arrested for step-mom porking or wife/bestfriend choking.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Unfortunately for him, I think the only role left for him at this point is as someone for us to point at, and say "We're not him."

I remember the post-box TDS episode. I didn't really understand what was going on. I had to re-listen to it after getting updated. LOL

Has IE received any former TWP members following that glorious display of the meaning of white trash

@Bjorn - MD Yeah, I have no stake in it.

@Ald I doubt they'd admit it.

Yeah

@Nemets Almaty was cool because they have soldiers in full battle rattle standing on quiet streets back to back to back: three dudes facing outward in a triangle. I've never seen anything like it.

In Tajikistan they had soldiers on the streets at night but they just kind of hung out.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Nah, I wasn't insinuating you did.

That whole episode was just very unfortunate...

I'm just a softie, in a sense. I see Spencer as a Shakespearean figure. Very flawed, full of wasted potential, brought down by their own choices.

I wouldn't be surprised if an alt-Right HBO miniseries is being cooked up by the usual suspects.

Dramatic, not documentary

On a certain level respect is extended to anyone who puts his neck out for this but that doesn't mean they can do no wrong

Yes, he did a lot of wrong.

Maybe. I'm just reluctant to cut him much slack, because of the stakes, and the potential consequences of the resources and opportunities he squandered, to say nothing of the disrespect he showed to the people closest to him, even those who bled for him.

@Bjorn - MD Yeah, I'm not making any excuses for that. I'm just pathologically altruistic. (why I should never be in top leadership)

Lol

Patrick is the real deal and is doing great things. This is the organization to be in, and I'm glad I was admitted.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Don't get me wrong; if there's scorn in my "voice" (typing?), it's obviously for him, not you. I hear ya, though. It's easy to become sentimental about people you identity with.

I got ya.

@Nemets Why ya askin' 'bout Kazakh Army garrisons? Plannin' a party...? 😏

@Nemets Shylock? <:teehee:381917632359563264>

@Nemets no just guarding the parts of town foreigners like

It was just a low brow merchant joke.

Your analysis is probably most correct. I've only read about 5 of Shakespeare's plays.

I'm a web developer and digital marketing consultant, if you guys have a business and want to hire in-group, let me know and I'd be glad to help you out 😃

@Gumbo - AZ it will be months at the very least but I will look for you when the time is right!

hoping to be able to help IE quite a lot in this area, plus I've also worked in cybersecurity.

@Nemets I did see the Bryan Cox / Ralph Finnes 'Corolianus.' And the Kenneth Branaugh 'Henry V'.
I've read Romeo & Juliet, Julius Caesar, Midsummer Night's Dream, Merchant of Venice, and Taming of the Shrew - Basically what High School and College mandated.

@Nemets Saw the Kenneth Branaugh Hamlet. I liked Lion King better.

(same plot)