it isnt always malicious though

```Because obviously you are going to change peoples views of that person based on what you say```That's completely true, but you guys talk about other people all the time without them being around, like JF or Dankula

(I still don't know who JF is lol)

sometimes it's just venting with your friends

It's not a bad thing.

Discussion is healthy.

i agree

aslong as you are being a massive dick about it and trying to ruin someone

Well I don't see people talking shit about Dankula but they do talk shit about JF behind his back and I don't like it, which I why I actually try to offer up his perspective on things when people are here talking shit.

Which is why some people don't like me here

because I try to talk for him

If you have one friend you're really concerned about and want to talk about things you've observed about them to your other friends, it would be really inappropriate to have the person there.

think what he would say, etc

i hear you, but are we ever going to be in a discussion with JF? and if we arent, then is it just off limits to talk about him?

i mean come on dude

You can be

lol

People can go to his discord and @ him

and he will most likely respond

"Well I don't see people talking shit about Dankula but they do talk shit about JF behind his back and I don't like it, which I why I actually try to offer up his perspective on things when people are here talking shit."



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I will go back to my Netflix

@Chloé Adsolution How would it be appropriate to not bring up your concerns about a person to the person?

Fulcrum has a massive hate boner for JF

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Dude is a psycho, you expect me to like him?

```How would it be appropriate to not bring up your concerns about a person to the person?```You might trigger a reaction in them that's not really ideal or productive for their health.

no i dont expect anything, i just find it funny

Had JFG stayed, we wouldn't talk shit behind his back.

@Chloé Adsolution You might trigger them to think about themselves from a different perspective and attempt to change any behavior you see as negative or they might explain why they act the way they do and help you understand.

extending this to youtubers seems a bit weird

The thing is, I tried to pay attention to his argument, but after reading his court papers, after him sperging out with vee, after the shit he said and keep talking about dankula, I can't for the life of me like the guy or take him seriously

When was he here? @DanielKO

I'm not going to meet 99% of them

JF lurked for a month or two and then left 🤷

@Reaps Yeah, but YouTubers you can actually easily speak to is a different matter, no?

```You might trigger them to think about themselves from a different perspective and attempt to change any behavior you see as negative or they might explain why they act the way they do and help you understand.```That's a very idealistic way of looking at human behaviour, but that's not how we work. Everything is about communicating correctly. Literal honesty and forwardness doesn't always equal productive communication. Every decision you make has a downside to it (usually), so it's usually good to pick the one that will cause the least harm and will be the most productive in the long-term.

people discuss people

including youtubers

@Chloé Adsolution It's how I work. lol

```It's how I work. lol```I _guarantee_ you that it isn't in all circumstances.

how is he easy to speak to, anyway? Because he has a twitter? I don't have a twitter, and I'm not creating one just to tweet something at him anyway

JF is not here, he was but he left, not going to stop calling him a piece of shit because he is not here, matter of fact, I engaged in a much more tame discussion on Twitter and he blocked me, so fuck it