Message from @Ruggwain
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italy elected mussolini at an earlier time
the WW isn't the plunge into chaos
Mussolini marched on rome
the WW is the consequence
He wasnt electes
Its a safeguard for when the people elected go against the public, that is the point. No one elects governments that they know will turn against them, guns are there for if and when it does.
heres a suggestion: make a constitution that prevents tyrants from even being able to enforce their will and back it up with several million rifles.
They have the first part of that
without the second it means nothing
Oh ok
honestly what is stopping merkel from right here right now declaring martial law and siezing control?
our lack of a presidential system
macron can do that
Merkel can't
her need of not doing it since she has been elected for like 16 years?
why not? who will stop her?
admittedly I find that to be a fault of France's
because she's going to get kicked out
by whom?
dissolve their positions.
for merkel to cease control, all institutions would have to conspire at the same time
with our separate pillars that's nearly impossible
oppress them, sieze power, tell everyones its for the greater good etc. this has happened a hundred times throughout history.
we have other parties?
the CDU is only like a quarter or third of the Bundestag
The ones that conspired to maintain her?
I will say this.
If you guys @radeon @Deleted User think that because you have guns you will never be dominated or never will live under a tyrannical government, you guys already have the mindset to live under a tyrannical government
sure, *now* you do, but what about in 50 years?
for changes to the constitution there needs to be a 3/4ths majority
mma fighter is kinda right actually
no one said that @Fulcrum010
in 50 years the same pillars will be in place or we will have unelected Merkel
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Radeon said that
oh ok
we are not free because we have guns we have guns because we are free. You are not free.
i didnt
CDU and SPD are hemorhaging seats in both federal and state government positions
And we go back to the same point....
if your freedoms can be taken from you effortlessly you don't have them. they are meaningless words on paper.