Message from @adss
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It's my belief such differences will not easily go away, and so if "better society" is one without warfare. your best bet is indoctrination and total control
at least if it's not spiritual
Those differences in beliefs are fine and you can vote democratically for those values but in a system with many checks and balances it's going to be difficult to have it be dominated by one general ideology and will more likely become a complex system that incorporates many different ideas and over time the one's that work will stay and the one's that don't will be removed.
Define work. less violent? more productive? closer to god?
it depends. For example we know that the separation of religion and state is necessary because without that freedom of religion couldn't exist for the minor religions. We know that the right to bear arms is necessary to protect the right to freedom of speech. We know freedom of speech is valuable because it keeps society from suppressing ideas that could potentially better humanity, etc.
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true, they all share a common relationship, expression, or the will to express. or better the right to conflict
one way or the other, we want the right to rebel, to object
It's so of my belief this is the problem, many want to avoid creating conflict, or believe a better society is a peaceful one or one devoid of conflict/violence
now violence always leads people to lend their mind to the worst of thoughts
but think sport as an example
the Olympics are perhaps humanities best global achievement in my mind, something so silly as sports
but nonetheless it symbolizes finding ways to fight out differences and find peace through violence
Or to assert dominance by saying we produce better people than you and advertize people to come to your better country
Look at this guy he runs fast, if you were in our country this guy would be winning for you
Right, also is a good way to settle an argument. not all arguments but it does help some
hi!
I guess where I like to go with this thinking is that violence is so overlooked on the importance it leads in a healthy society, to test your society against another. war is after all quite productive in many ways. but if society could find ways to compete without its most uneducated form, being that of destroying the other proves I'm right argument. we might actually start to see the path to universal truth is ironically mixed in with what we perceive as the worst argument you can make, that of "shutup or ill shut you up"
so western culture > third world
debating in itself can be a form of warfare. why would anyone want to rid a society of such things?
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want to bring importance to this
if a server wants to survive gotta recognize debating is a form of warfare
Society as a hole mate.
conflict is the path of progress, I don't want to rid the world of my enemies, no, you'll never rid yourself of enemies, nobody is ultimately alike, and no one goal will satisfy. so a society that has not embraced this cannot survive.
Better to segregate and give people the option to move to their desired hell imo
i dunno m8
i got 5 bans in 2 hours
im just an anarchist
i just wanna deffend my family and friends from everyone els
what's up fascistanis contrapoints btfo sargon
kewl story bro
nice avatar
there's more than 2 genders debate me
Depends, do I have to abide by how many genders one person believes to another? or is it scientific? even so, can we agree to disagree?
or should we just fight it out and whoever survives wins?
gender in itself isn't entirely scientific
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