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where's the debate at?

wheres the debate at?

it's when one group talks down against another

unless you're white

where's the debate at?

There was an invite on pol for alt-right fags.

I like listening to Sargon occasionally. Calling myself a fan would be stretching it

Islam needs to be reformed. Every religion has been violent at some point in history. Usually when that civilization becomes more educated and wealthy they become less vioent and radical and more accepting of other beliefs.

*violent

thanks

how is organized religion any different than government?

does the belief in god truly make you stupid? perhaps it's a coping mechanism for humans in troubling times?

the righteous mind is a good book

I don't think there is a debate

agreed. You seem like another pompous atheist who believes he's better for his beliefs

so it's better for society to have remain unorganized by religious leaders. Imagine how much that would have stifled human progress.

The idea that Christianity caused or significantly contributed to the fall of the Western Empire has long since been rejected by modern historians.

The cause of this "Dark Age" was the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the waves of invasions and raiding that followed it.

I'm guessing you're a teenager or a juvenile cynical adult

there is no such thing as good or evil only human survival.

define evil?

define good?

lol

lol

no one does. If they did they'd be doing it

oppression stifles productivity though and leads to revolt

wrong

if that was true we would still be practicing slavery

can't kill everyone

That's why freedom of choice is the most important factor in a society

within reason

eventually yes

okay. freedom of choice is one part of the complex structure of a highly functioning society

do you really want me to go into every detail of such a complex system?

there is no one society?

fascism is not compatible with a free society just as anarchy is not compatible with an authoriative society

it would also lead to constant warfare

we don't!

there is no one society

then let them fix it. If it brings peace and prosperity across the globe then why fight it?

very few actually want fascism

educating children is the key to changing society for the better

I don;t need to convince anyone of anthing

I just need the ignorant to send their kids to school. If it's free most will do so. Essentially yes. For the betterment of society.

however. Indoctrination isn't quite right. I would want to teach them critical thinking skills

good on you Valty

Exactly. and yes some will slip through the cracks and take mein kampf seriously but most won't

in theory yes

the modern education system doesn't teach any real valuable skills other than reading and writing

that's my belief

I was going to type math but got lazy lol

getting tired but enjoying convo

Those differences in beliefs are fine and you can vote democratically for those values but in a system with many checks and balances it's going to be difficult to have it be dominated by one general ideology and will more likely become a complex system that incorporates many different ideas and over time the one's that work will stay and the one's that don't will be removed.

it depends. For example we know that the separation of religion and state is necessary because without that freedom of religion couldn't exist for the minor religions. We know that the right to bear arms is necessary to protect the right to freedom of speech. We know freedom of speech is valuable because it keeps society from suppressing ideas that could potentially better humanity, etc.