Message from @Fulcrum010

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2018-03-28 01:01:04 UTC  

But yeah, you're right, they weren't really "known' to the public til they were at least capable of doing as advertised.

2018-03-28 01:01:22 UTC  

It took hundreds of years for the concept to be usefull

2018-03-28 01:01:31 UTC  

Like there were a lot of automatic handguns before the c93 Borschart but they fucking sucked.

2018-03-28 01:02:25 UTC  

The thing about arenautics there wasn't math or any calculations you could do

2018-03-28 01:02:31 UTC  

You just put a engine

2018-03-28 01:02:42 UTC  

On a something that looked like it could fly

2018-03-28 01:02:52 UTC  

See what happened

2018-03-28 01:02:58 UTC  

"Rajneesh, how does this work?"

2018-03-28 01:03:03 UTC  

"Fuck man, Vishnu maybe?"

2018-03-28 01:03:06 UTC  

Wright brothers had the advantage of being bike makers

2018-03-28 01:03:22 UTC  

Making compact light weight designs

2018-03-28 01:03:34 UTC  

They also need combustion engine technology to become efficient enough

2018-03-28 01:03:46 UTC  

To make a plane you need a good car engine to be invented too

2018-03-28 01:04:09 UTC  

To make rockets work you need good fuel and knowledge of ballistics

2018-03-28 01:04:26 UTC  

but any schmuck can stick an arrow to a firework and fire off 200 from a cart

2018-03-28 01:10:54 UTC  

I don't know much about the Wright bros, but it sounded like they couldn't afford many engines.

2018-03-28 01:11:10 UTC  

And then struggled to sell the invention.

2018-03-28 01:11:29 UTC  

And the fucking French called fake news on them (later apologized.)

2018-03-28 01:11:44 UTC  

about what?

2018-03-28 01:11:55 UTC  

The press there, were calling them frauds, liars.

2018-03-28 01:12:04 UTC  

About the plane?

2018-03-28 01:12:14 UTC  

Yeah, that they didn't fly, their plane didn't exist, etc.

2018-03-28 01:12:30 UTC  

that's because Santos Dummon flew in the middle of Paris

2018-03-28 01:12:40 UTC  

At a time the Wrights stopped doing public demonstrations because they didn't want anyone to copy their design.

2018-03-28 01:13:20 UTC  

Santos-Dumont was a rich guy, wasn't he?

2018-03-28 01:13:28 UTC  

idk about this tbh

2018-03-28 01:14:01 UTC  

>In 1906 skeptics in the European aviation community had converted the press to an anti-Wright brothers stance. European newspapers, especially those in France, were openly derisive, calling them bluffeurs (bluffers).

2018-03-28 01:14:42 UTC  

>The heir of a wealthy family of coffee producers, Santos-Dumont dedicated himself to aeronautical study and experimentation in Paris, where he spent most of his adult life.

2018-03-28 01:15:20 UTC  

You know, if you can dedicate your life to the study of something that doesn't exist yet, you have to be rich.

2018-03-28 01:15:30 UTC  

I didn't knew about this part

2018-03-28 01:15:34 UTC  

that's why i said

2018-03-28 01:18:47 UTC  

That's the mental image I always had, the Wrights struggling to preserve and repair the only engine they had, while Santos-Dumont being the rich guy that made balloons and later airplanes for fun.

2018-03-28 01:19:04 UTC  

idk about them

2018-03-28 01:19:07 UTC  

what i know is

2018-03-28 01:19:13 UTC  

Santos flew a plane in the middle of Paris

2018-03-28 01:19:16 UTC  

they didn't

2018-03-28 01:19:59 UTC  

I'm guessing they couldn't afford bringing their plane to Paris.

2018-03-28 01:20:14 UTC  

they plane was a planner, right?

2018-03-28 01:20:33 UTC  

their*

2018-03-28 01:21:02 UTC  

>In 1908, after the Wrights' first flights in France, Archdeacon publicly admitted that he had done them an injustice.