Message from @radeon
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Well, @NightOwl , we're all aware of the cesspit pf politics in the western world. So that hardly matters.
fags can be fags as long as they don't try to peg me
done
If it is granted at all it is a privilege. Rights by definition are freedom from, not freedom to.
next argument 😄
but what's your take on gay rights?
Marriage etc
positive vs negative rights
me?
Yea
yes that's right
gay marriage shouldn't be a thing - marriage is a religious thing
No it isnt
Plenty of atheists get married for starters
idgaf if two men get a civil partnership tho
What's the difference?
One can have kids biologically
The religion argument is null simply because of the separation of church and state, either abolish all marriage laws or allow gays to be married, that's your two options from a liberal standpoint.
I don't like the idea of gay couples raising children, go!
nature/nurture
Don't you think two dads/moms is better than zero?
Lack of a gender binary in the family unit leads to a lower quality of upbringing
a child cannot be raised properly without both
That's demonstrably untrue
According to who?
The social scientists?
I like how this discussion went from chastizing him coz he's an actual fascist, to debating whether a gay guy should be allowed to raise kids
but seriously, gay couples just can't raise a child properly
There are plenty of people who are fine who grew up with one parent, it's not ideal but it's better than no parents
I disagree.
Dude, how? Why not?
Some can, a lot can’t.
there are plenty of straight couples who want to adopt, so the better than nothing argument doesnt really apply in reality
The government shouldn’t determine jack shit about marriage.
Is this the toxic gay culture argument?
It's true to say children raised by both wedded biological mother and father have better education, quality of life and mental health and stats prove it's less in homosexual parenting.
lol fucked that up