@redd I'm a gay furry so

i agree that you don't but in law we do

@radeon wut r rights

LMFAO

accurate, not shopped

Things granted to you by the state are privleges.

@someone think of the children

I'll gladly debate on gay rights if you like

@radeon sure

@Fitzydog i agree and i've said the same things before

but legally they are classed as rights

that's why i also agree with you that they are abstract, or there are multiple definitions to what rights are

Well, @NightOwl , we're all aware of the cesspit pf politics in the western world. So that hardly matters.

fags can be fags as long as they don't try to peg me

done

If it is granted at all it is a privilege. Rights by definition are freedom from, not freedom to.

next argument 😄

but what's your take on gay rights?

Marriage etc

positive vs negative rights

me?

Yea

yes that's right

gay marriage shouldn't be a thing - marriage is a religious thing

No it isnt

@this

Plenty of atheists get married for starters

idgaf if two men get a civil partnership tho

What's the difference?

One can have kids biologically

The religion argument is null simply because of the separation of church and state, either abolish all marriage laws or allow gays to be married, that's your two options from a liberal standpoint.

I don't like the idea of gay couples raising children, go!

Why?

nature/nurture

Don't you think two dads/moms is better than zero?

Lack of a gender binary in the family unit leads to a lower quality of upbringing

a child cannot be raised properly without both

That's demonstrably untrue

According to who?

@radeon zero parents? is this child made of air? 😛

The social scientists?