I mean at the end of divorce

People can do whatever the fuck they want, as long as they are not breaking the laws.

Not going to tell people what they can or can't do because I think it's wrong

Cousin marrying nah my cousins are hot

Camel urine mixed with milk done that already

@Deleted User Do women have agency over their own wellbeing, and have individual opiions that must be respsected?

From what I understand, that's Tommy's ultimate goal; don't let Muslims step outside the law, like it's happening currently.

@Deleted User That wife beating part was so understated.

I dont know what u mean @ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar)

I dunno what u mean @Fitzydog

It is not done just by miswak before marriage as a cultural thing only

@Deleted User Well you just advocated beating your wife as if she's a child

If my wife goes out of line I am allowed to beat her.

Before divorce tapping her with a miswak yeah

In Islam.

@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) No one asked for legality

As the final straw then talaq talaq talaq

I'm ok with wife beating, the government can't tell me what do to with my property

@Deleted User Holy shit no you are just missing the point.

@Fulcrum010 But certainly the government can protect another individual's right not to get assaulted

@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) That's the point of govt, duh

Exactly

Ensuring citizen safety

I didn't say that

So that may mean infringing on your property for valid reasons

"protect another individual's right" Is not protecting one's safety

safety of liberty and rights.

Which are there to cater safety of citizens to some degree

Debateable

How so?

The purspose of the government is to protect my RIGHT to self defense, and the defense of others.

We could have a judicial system with absolutely no police, and it would work the same legally

Police are just a delagation of the use of force

But how shall that protect my natural rights?

That's your own damn job

But first you have to serve the state

Or pay taxes

either way but yeah

The governmnet is essentailly a giant insurance company/private arbitration

My natural right needs to be protected as well. How then should the government protect your right to your property in case of a foreign invasion?

@ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar) I take up arms? Like my constitution demands that I do

It's called the draft

@Fitzydog @ᚴᚬᚾᛁᚾᚴ ᚱᚢᚦᚴᚨᚱ (Hrothgar)

What is a natural right?