Everyone here is making the assumption that the most important part of christianity is the Higher Power thing, as if you could be passive about it and not actually do any reading

??

Do you believe in the divine right of kings?

And queens?

Claiming there can't be a higher power simply because you decided to reject it, or because somebody else told you to, is also foolish.

everyone speaking right now is an atheist but Broo

To disregard the Bible as literature along with many other important classical works, is foolish at best, and self-destructive to society at worst.

You guys like monarchy right?

@Deleted User I'm american, so no

Or aristocracy

If voluntary

the only type of monarchy I can *tollerate*, but don't exactly like, is a constitutional monarchy

constitutional monarchy like Britain where the monarch doesnt exercise powers

na i bible is a terrible book as someone who was in line to be a pastor i must say, worst book ever. fails on almost all levels, it's important like remembering the nazis is important

The queen is the single largest land owner in the world apparently.

good for her

Then your pastor studies, or whatever it was called, must have sucked. Or you didn't read many books yourself.

Pretty crazy, she owns whole countries like Canada and New Zealand

i would never say that there is no higher power thats retarded, saying any higher power exists that we came up with is just as much so .

Except a dozen or so people a couple of millennia ago were willing to die under torture convinced they had witnessed concrete proof of higher power.

if there was a real god and he gave man true wisdom beyond his limits of the time, it would be the only holy book. yes humans are terrible for that

false memories are not only a thing they are common. theres a reason science doesn't work of off non repeatable results

Worshipping the Sun directly makes much more sense.

people dont make truth

people find truth by testing the world and reconfirming it works the same way through out the world.

Of course you can always claim what people say happened might have been all a conspiracy.

I still don't get what @Deleted User is trying to accomplish. It's like they don't actually fully understand their own position whatsoever.

Just saying if you wanted to worship a higher power, there's one you can see and feel.

if i were to ever lower my standard for what is true to the point where i believed the bible again i would be forced to accept the claims of many religions

@Fitzydog hooty is a troll

well except islam that story and history is laughable.

It was all a conspiracy. All the manuscripts, the 1st century churches built by the apostles, their public torture and executions, the documented orders to desecrate their tombs by the invading Muslim armies. All a massive conspiracy, that's the non-foolish explanation.

@flyingfoxel The problem, is that you're taking the bible literally

thats the best part im not.

So what about Paul?

@DanielKO These peeps don't know shit about Paul

ill go over the insane years of twisting my beliefs untill i couldn't hold them if you want in vc but, i dont have th time nor skill to type it out.

i have all the historical fact to prove most of the bible has the same historically losses of meaning that the Muslims had in the 30-100 years after the death of the patriarch.

but even if parts are true it wont ever make up for the losses in the 13centiry and in the 4th

@flyingfoxel The Old testement is nothing more than a collection of books that people in the past thought were really important. The New Testament is about resolving an ongoing civil war in Judaism, and prostelizing Hellesntic Judaism to the Greeks and Romans, with a focal point on Jesus as a superhero who was executed unjustly.

The important part is that its IMPORTANT