You've got to be kidding.

You're mincing words like a wordchef.

That's what I meant

Originally

Anyway, if you don't think there is any way to teach hard work than with money, I don't know what to tell you.

IMO there's plenty more to it than that.

I don't know why you think there needs to be another reward

I already said, money isn't the only thing people want.

You give somthing to society, and you get something back in return (money)

That hiw it works

That hiw it should work

and that's just one aspect of life

and there's the whole rest of being a person and having wants and needs

the money is the most important factor. its absence poses the entire problem

Again, the other reason you might put effort into something is because you find satisfaction in it (again, doesn't mean you necessarily enjoy it)

As you pointed out Baraban, money just represents value, so all you need to be able to offer is anything that someone values.

Which could even just be jokes.

the insult makes it harder to find the satisfaction

Some people work hard just to hear some jokes and have some laughs.

nobody is going to work for the jokes

I guess you could ask for something else other than money, but l don't know why you would

probably not for too long, no, but it's an example

Money is simpler

in fact if you have a good sense of humor it might be hardert to get people to work hard

anyway, obviously I don't know how to explain this to you

I tried

Maybe

now it's just frustrating

I can't take care of people by giving them nice feelings to have, and i can't get them to do anything, because i suppose they dont see how their skills might carry over

well taking care of people isn't the same as encouraging hard work

we're obviously thinking on different wavelengths

rightfully they shouldnt work hard where they actually are, but they shouldnt stagnate while theyre there

It seems to be that it's the people who value hard work for reasons other than money that will be the ones to work hard even when they aren't getting paid well and don't "love" or "enjoy" it.

Those people appreciate pure hard work and discipline because they know all the other benefits they bring.

I mean, money is an aspect no doubt but not the whole picture.

its the entire picture

well we disagree

lol

I don't think you should work hard just for the sake of hard work, that just some pointless

I'm not religious but to use religious imagery, God is the entire picture.

so take that