I dont think the model we are talking about will ever overthrow youtube though, unless youtube just goes under on it's own. It can be an alternative for controversial creators, but it probably wont have normies using it, which may not be a bad thing.

Whats your killer app

you need something like South Park basically

something nobody can get anywhere else. you may have to sign an exclusivity deal with some talented creators

unfortunately I don't know anything about computers, otherwise I would probably be working on something.

well do you know economics, or have a lot of investment capital, or know a lot of geeks and a couple richkids?

If I had an idea worth while I'm sure I can find a way to pull it off, but the trick is to not get it ripped off.

part of the process really is, to troubleshoot every single problem that will arise one by one

yeah, I like doing that

dont worry about people stealing ideas if you cant implement them. anyone can think of the same ideas, few can implement. indeed within the first year people would copy you, much bigger companies maybe

the best thing would be for them to be seen as clones of the original, if the original survives amongst them

One of the trickiest things is convincing people to use it once you've built it, you would need to get a bunch of big people to want to use it. and it has to be "cool" otherwise people are just gonna say "fuck that it sucks"

theres a lot of ways you can take care of creators with good GUI

if you can convince them theyll make more money off you than YT, theres something

get whats that bi†ch to plug it

Kylie Jenner

lol

get her to say her dad likes looking at balls on it

his own balls in a glass case with a livestream at an undisclosed location

if you wanna work the 'no censorship' angle, that really means locking down Sargon, MILO, maybe Jordan P for good measure

for sure

They cant exactly leave their platform right this sec tho

maybe if YT gets worse 😃

and try to round it out with some people who arent constantly 'accused of being right-wing'

plus they already have patreons so there is that to work around. they would have to adjust their models a bit.

who has been the most screwed over by youtube?

let me think

yes but thats actually good because they have a platform to get money and they can provide content to their subscribers on any platform they like

it makes them less platform-dependent

that has something to do with what Floatplane does

yeah but the thing is, how would the patreon donors feel about it. I dont know, I'm not thinking straight atm, I cant really articulate what I'm trying to say.

if you wanted to start *stupid* tiny, contract a creator to make you one exclusive video, get the web ui all coded up, and host it. make sure theyre popular and you can get them to plug it on their YT vids. and just make sure theyre super popular. the idea is a bit of a stretch, but so is anything

oh idk. are patreon users devoted to youtube?

make lots of lists of problems

No that's not what i'm saying, just that if the creator goes to a paid subscription model would the patreons stick around? and would they need to pay for the subscription on top of patreon? that sort of thing

Also the creator would need to have some form of exclusivity to the new site.

If they stay with youtube also, they would need to have a decent upload delay to get people to spring for the subscription

yeah thats a lot to work on. you really want the ad revenue so consumers dont have to pay

thats why i say make creators pay hosting, because theyre the ones trying to make money

charging the consumer 5$ a month is okay, but im not paying 60/yr just to watch milo

you would have to really get into the numbers to figure out the optimal pricing for everything .